Daubies at home HEMI conversion

[Daubie3]

Also got the remote oil filter installed.
Mounted the new filter location horizontally right behind the front frame cross member.

Yes, I know the filter is dented. I did that when I was removing it from the engine.
I have new one ordered.

With basically no space restrictions I'm thinking about going to a full length filter.
Any suggestions from the peanut gallery on filters would be appreciated.

 

[AjordanH]

Can you tell me what upper radiator hose you used? I’m trying to do a Hemi swap in my 2005 also and can not find a hose that will fit. My radiator inlet look to be in a similar location to yours. I’ve tried 2 recommended part numbers already but they are not even close. Yours look like it would be very close if not perfect. Thanks!

 

[Daubie3]

Hi,
Here's the best information I have at the moment. It's a picture of the upper hose mounted on the engine before it's cut off to fit the radiator. I ended up cutting quite a bit off of it, almost half. It seems like the part was originally a lower radiator hose for an early '80s midsize GM car. You can see the part number on it in these pictures. The band shows 24134L. Seems like I got it through RockAuto. If that doesn't get you what you need let me know and I'll try to look through all of my old receipts and see if I can find anything different.
Good luck on your swap and post some pictures so we can see how it's going.
Daubie

 

[Daubie3]

Can you tell me what upper radiator hose you used? I’m trying to do a Hemi swap in my 2005 also and can not find a hose that will fit. My radiator inlet look to be in a similar location to yours. I’ve tried 2 recommended part numbers already but they are not even close. Yours look like it would be very close if not perfect. Thanks!

Looks like they are available on Amazon right now.

 

[AjordanH]

Looks like they are available on Amazon right now.

Thanks. I just found that one on rock auto. Looks like I’m gonna trim a Gates 20611 for the lower hose. My harness should ship out from Hotwire this week so that’s a big part of the swap. I’ve still got to get heater hoses and battery cables but I think I’ve got my AC hoses and power steering hoses and transmission cooler lines worked out.

 

[AjordanH]

Hi,
Here's the best information I have at the moment. It's a picture of the upper hose mounted on the engine before it's cut off to fit the radiator. I ended up cutting quite a bit off of it, almost half. It seems like the part was originally a lower radiator hose for an early '80s midsize GM car. You can see the part number on it in these pictures. The band shows 24134L. Seems like I got it through RockAuto. If that doesn't get you what you need let me know and I'll try to look through all of my old receipts and see if I can find anything different.
Good luck on your swap and post some pictures so we can see how it's going.
Daubie
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Thanks. I just found that one on rock auto. Looks like I’m gonna trim a Gates 20611 for the lower hose. My harness should ship out from Hotwire this week so that’s a big part of the swap. I’ve still got to get heater hoses and battery cables but I think I’ve got my AC hoses and power steering hoses and transmission cooler lines worked out.

Well I’ve got my harness back from Hotwire and it has the plug for a 231 style transfer case switch instead of a 241 sensor like I have. I see in the pics that you have the same sensor as mine. Hotwire says the sensor will not work. My harness also has a loose red wire under the dash labeled 4x4 mode. Do you have any insight on how yours is wired?

 

[Daubie3]

Well I’ve got my harness back from Hotwire and it has the plug for a 231 style transfer case switch instead of a 241 sensor like I have. I see in the pics that you have the same sensor as mine. Hotwire says the sensor will not work. My harness also has a loose red wire under the dash labeled 4x4 mode. Do you have any insight on how yours is wired?

Do you have a picture of the plug and/or sensor that you're talking about? Since it's been a while since I installed that, and off the top of my head I'm not sure. I've had a couple other project cars that I've been working on since then. But yes, if you would send me a couple pictures of what you have questions on I'll see if I can help you. I do remember an extra wire under the dash but I think it was for turning off the overdrive. The only thing I remember anything different was that I had to send Chris at Hotwire the two plugs for the locker pumps because they don't remanufacture those.

 

[AjordanH]

Do you have a picture of the plug and/or sensor that you're talking about? Since it's been a while since I installed that, and off the top of my head I'm not sure. I've had a couple other project cars that I've been working on since then. But yes, if you would send me a couple pictures of what you have questions on I'll see if I can help you. I do remember an extra wire under the dash but I think it was for turning off the overdrive. The only thing I remember anything different was that I had to send Chris at Hotwire the two plugs for the locker pumps because they don't remanufacture those.

Here is my sensor on the case and the plug on the harness. They do not match. Does your 4wd indicator in your instrument cluster work? And your factory locker switch function also?

 

[Daubie3]

Here is my sensor on the case and the plug on the harness. They do not match. Does your 4wd indicator in your instrument cluster work? And your factory locker switch function also?View attachment 530799View attachment 530800

Here's the only pictures I have of it right now.
Yes, my 4x4 dash indicator works.
My lockers both work, but I did the locker switch mod to mine a few years ago.
Daubie

 

[NashvilleTJ]

Here's the only pictures I have of it right now.
Yes, my 4x4 dash indicator works.
My lockers both work, but I did the locker switch mod to mine a few years ago.
Daubie


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That’s pretty slick, Daub. Where did you get that bracket?

 

[AjordanH]

Thanks. That’s the same sensor I have but Hotwire says it will not work for a Rubicon due to the 2005 Ram pcm doesn’t have the provision for the 4x4 indicator. I’m going to do the locker bypass to make them functional also. I’ve ran into another issue that takes priority for now. I’ll have to come back to this issue. I was hoping to have a local exhaust shop fab and install my exhaust but he tried several ways and couldn’t get a pipe ran on the drivers side to clear the upper control arm and front drive shaft. I guess I’m on my own to fabricate something.

 

[Daubie3]

Thanks. That’s the same sensor I have but Hotwire says it will not work for a Rubicon due to the 2005 Ram pcm doesn’t have the provision for the 4x4 indicator. I’m going to do the locker bypass to make them functional also. I’ve ran into another issue that takes priority for now. I’ll have to come back to this issue. I was hoping to have a local exhaust shop fab and install my exhaust but he tried several ways and couldn’t get a pipe ran on the drivers side to clear the upper control arm and front drive shaft. I guess I’m on my own to fabricate something.

By far the exhaust was the hardest part of the HEMI swap. I had the same idea to have a exhaust shop make it but I didn't trust anyone to get it all to fit.
I reposted these pictures of the left side crossover. It has to fit the contour very tightly in order to clear everything. I also header wrapped the left side pipe to cut down on heat being transferred into the transmission and engine

 

[Wildman]

By far the exhaust was the hardest part of the HEMI swap. I had the same idea to have a exhaust shop make it but I didn't trust anyone to get it all to fit.
I reposted these pictures of the left side crossover. It has to fit the contour very tightly in order to clear everything. I also header wrapped the left side pipe to cut down on heat being transferred into the transmission and engine

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After making 2 different exhaust systems for my Magnum I'm really not looking forward to doing the Hemi exhaust. Currently the exhaust that is on my donor rig has the cats near the manifolds & I'm pretty sure that this won't work with my Savvy 3 link front. So I'll have to build my own again.

You did an awesome job BTW and I really like how yours turned out.

 

[Daubie3]

Thanks again Wildman for your compliments. You also do very fine work.

 

[AjordanH]

Thanks for the pictures and input. Mine unfortunately is on hold for a few weeks with family vacation coming up soon. Life happens lol. Wildman part of my issues is the upper control arm on my savvy 3 link mid arm. I’m not sure how I’m going to resolve it yet.

 

[NashvilleTJ]

Thanks for the pictures and input. Mine unfortunately is on hold for a few weeks with family vacation coming up soon. Life happens lol. Wildman part of my issues is the upper control arm on my savvy 3 link mid arm. I’m not sure how I’m going to resolve it yet.

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For me, the exhaust clearance at that exact spot was the most challenging part of the swap (the rest of the exhaust was number two on that list). Lots of pie cuts and trial and error. The front driveshaft also caused clearance issues for me.

Are you building your exhaust?

 

[Wildman]

I'm not looking forward to another exhaust building adventure but I'll Get R Done....

 

[AjordanH]

Yeah apparently I’m gonna have to build my own exhaust since the only local shop who would even look at it spend a day and a half trying but failing to get a pipe to clear my upper control arm and mount on the drivers side.

 

[Daubie3]

Yeah apparently I’m gonna have to build my own exhaust since the only local shop who would even look at it spend a day and a half trying but failing to get a pipe to clear my upper control arm and mount on the drivers side.

I may have missed it but what exhaust manifolds are you using??
I used exhaust manifolds from a Jeep Commander. That's the ones that were recommended.

Also, One thing that I never looked at because I had enough room was the possibility of using a right side exhaust manifold turned around forward on the left side. Without going back and looking that might cause clearance issues with the power steering pump and possibly steering box.
That has been done on a lot of hot rods in the past because of clearance issues.

 

[AjordanH]

They’re 06 grand Cherokee manifolds. The right side manifold turned around like that was actually what my exhaust shop guy recommended. I haven’t looked at that option so I don’t know if it would even bolt up like that.