Does this look right?
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Considering that you have a bit more lift than this one with 7" of up travel on 40's, I'd say you were a bit overly tall.
MC is the master of social media marketing.I mostly think where they’re advertised - it’s just a sign of the social media generation. Make it look good, nothing else matters.
They are masters of understanding how to appeal to our inherent biases and poorly constructed belief systems and manipulating that into a purchase. They prey on the ignorant with catch phrases that make folks go "oh, that makes sense, take my money".
If they were as good at engineering products as they are at marketing, they would rule the offroad world.
you limit your clients with builds of this nature............you can sell all day to the market share of "has no clue". but anyone that knows would pass you by because of it.
"All show and no go".
That said, I also don't think people "that know" would likely care beyond a comment of how that's a poorly built rig. They'll do it all at home anyway and seek out the stock (or lightly modified rig) when they buy, without servicing it where they bought it.
I would bet there are more of "has no clue" clients than ones that care. Hell, just look at all the crap the JK/JL crowd buys. There's way more of them on the road.
Correct me If I'm wrong.
I believe this all started because of how the top of the spring sits.
My triple rate Rock Krawler springs do the same thing. The top coil drops down into the second coil; and my Jeep is not heavy (and does not have Acos).
Sounds like Rock Krawler with their "triple rate" springs has been taking lessons on marketing from MC.
If I understand you correctly, I disagree. "Guys that know" often stop in to inspect and also sometimes criticize some of the stuff on the display pads..including my TJ propped up on plastic rocks (can't believe nobody here called me out on that one in the profile pic). I keep plenty of well built rigs around and for sale. They get criticized too cause everybody is an expert. But as you say, the market of "has no clue" (the ones that keep the shelves empty at 4 Wheel Parts) is the majority of buyers and would rather have a Rubicon on cheap wheels, a leveling kit and All Terrain TA's for more money than a rig that is more capable off road and less comfortable on road. Most of the guys like you guys are savvy buyers, don't mind fabricating, getting your hands dirty and usually don't want to pay good good money for a built rig...you would rather build it yourself even if it costs more...at least thats what we see. But most also can't resist the temptation no matter what the build to come in and educate us...totally fine and I have met some really cool people that way.
I have a built Cj right now. Bought it in an estate sale for pennies on the dollar. In it's day it was minimum $50,000 build ( I know the shop that built it) with tons of custom fab, 60's, coil overs, Atlas, NV4500, custom roll cage and more. It was tired when we bought it, but we plugged up some oil leaks, put some gas in it and took it across the Rubicon. It pretty much went wherever you pointed it, even with reduced horsepower and smoke pouring out the tailpipe. It's in my shop right now getting re-wired, motor rebuilt, new tires etc... to prepare it for sale. Even the worst critic with no love for CJ's would find things they like about this build. No doubt, after it's done and refreshed it will sit for months at $29,999 (half of what it cost to build it) while dozens of everyday jeeps with curb appeal as their only asset will sell for more money. Guys like me who don't have quite the knowledge that you guys do or have the know how or tools to build it will eventually come along and realize the value of this CJ and what's been done to it and buy it.
I bought them used, and only because they were a little taller than what I had. Although, I don't think I actually gained any height.
That is likely since the top coils very likely completely collapsed as soon as the jack was removed.I bought them used, and only because they were a little taller than what I had. Although, I don't think I actually gained any height.
You are correct, but the condition looks really funny with the Acos because the Acos mounts are super small and don't have a spring bucket at the top to theoretically support the grouping of coils if they were to compress beyond the top ring....make sense? ..so basically when you look down into the wheel well you can see into the center of the coils from the top.
So all of this is just about vanity?
Have one of your shops fabricate a top for the spring that interfaces with the adjustable spring spacer. Heck, even the local high school kid could make a cover on their 3-D printer that would hide whatever you want.
Already done but might not even use it...when the spacer nut is adjusted back up to the top of the threads (near the frame) on the Acos it looks much better (I guess more normal). The whole thing started with the extreme adjustment required in the back to get the ride height level on springs with the same amount of lift. The top view of the springs in the back just added another aspect to it that I questioned. Probably wouldn't have even noticed it as much if the springs didn't collapse on each other at the top.
I get it. I have a 1/2" spacer above the spring, so no immediate support for the next coil. Agreed yours looks worse.
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