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I'd like to specify that the users I am talking about are the people who spend hours a day on it. Not the average "grandma and grandpa have a Facebook to keep track of the family" user.

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Oh yeah, there are exceptions for sure. I'm talking about the people who login numerous times a day, check it on their phone every 10 minutes, etc.
 
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Yep, and no one will admit it either. It's like an alcoholic saying, "I'm not addicted, I can stop at anytime.". Can you really? Because that's what any addict would say.

I'm not trying to say I think less of anyone for being on Facebook, I'm simply saying I recognized what was an addiction (and something that was modifying my behavior) and I decided enough was enough. My life is better without Facebook, I'm not missing out on anything, and from the years I spent on there, I am confident I'm also not missing out on any valuable information. Google still exists, and that's all I need to find whatever it is I'm looking for.

I relate to what that former Facebook exec was saying in his interview. That people are getting a dopamine hit to their brain anytime someone "Likes" their post, comments on their post, shares their post, etc. It's modifying people's behavior subconsciously to seek out that sort of gratification.

One of the Mom groups my wife is in is a perfect example of this. Moms occasionally post photos of themselves all dressed up with a caption such as, "Date night! Getting ready to go out with my hubby!".

Explain to me why a group of 100,000 random people on Facebook need to a photo of you all dressed up ready to go out? I'll explain it... Because the more likes that photo gets, the more complimentary comments it gets, and the more reaction it gets, the more that gives that person gratification and satisfaction. Most people don't look at it that way, but it actually makes total sense when you think about it.
Yeah man. I don't take selfies. Ever. My fiance gets mad at me for it.

"I want to update my profile picture"
"I'm sorry Love, but keep me out of it."

Lol. She was mad when I wouldn't keep a profile so she could have me tagged in her relationship status and all I could think to say is "neither of us are trophies and it's nobody's business, we shouldn't need to explain our relationship".

She still doesn't grasp what I was trying to say. Maybe with time, eh? :D

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Yeah man. I don't take selfies. Ever. My fiance gets mad at me for it.

"I want to update my profile picture"
"I'm sorry Love, but keep me out of it."

Lol. She was mad when I wouldn't keep a profile so she could have me tagged in her relationship status and all I could think to say is "neither of us are trophies and it's nobody's business, we shouldn't need to explain our relationship".

She still doesn't grasp what I was trying to say. Maybe with time, eh? :D

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Funny! My wife got mad at the same thing. She said, "Well if you delete your profile, it will say I'm married, but you won't be tagged in who I am married to!". I told her I don't care if anyone on Facebook knows we are married, and I am not concerned with being tagged in a "relationship status". Haha

I think she's getting close to deleting hers now though. Day-by-day, I make her understand why it's unnecessary and a waste of time. She's on it obsessively.

The other thing is too, I want to set a good example for both our daughters who are 5 and 1. I don't want them growing up with social media (at least for as long as I can keep them away from it), and I don't want them thinking that because we do it, they should be able to as well.

Kids these days are MEAN to each other on social media... I see all the stuff in the news. Nothing good happens on their with kids, I assure you.
 
Funny! My wife got mad at the same thing. She said, "Well if you delete your profile, it will say I'm married, but you won't be tagged in who I am married to!". I told her I don't care if anyone on Facebook knows we are married, and I am not concerned with being tagged in a "relationship status". Haha

I think she's getting close to deleting hers now though. Day-by-day, I make her understand why it's unnecessary and a waste of time. She's on it obsessively.

The other thing is too, I want to set a good example for both our daughters who are 5 and 1. I don't want them growing up with social media (at least for as long as I can keep them away from it), and I don't want them thinking that because we do it, they should be able to as well.

Kids these days are MEAN to each other on social media... I see all the stuff in the news. Nothing good happens on their with kids, I assure you.
Yeah man I couldn't imagine raising kids in this current social environment. Too much for me, I work too much lol.

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I confess. I like it.
BUT:
I just started fooling around with it a couple of years ago. And as I've said here before, I'm under an alias and have 7 "friends". I started using it for menus and info about local businesses. Handy, but I didn't mess with it much.

I have a serious problem with a not-so-popular model of old car. I love the 1973-77 Chevelle. Most web forums dedicated to Chevelles are obviously dominated by the older and MUCH more popular 64-72 models. Those guys hate us. We're like JKers to them.

So, needless to day I didn't really have a place to go for info and camaraderie so back in July I started a FB page dedicated to my favorite model of car. I made it a closed group so I approve members and can kick out the ****heads. Now we have around 700 members and I have 2 other admins and we keep a close eye on things. No politics, no smartassery, no bashing etc etc. Members get 1 warning, 2nd offense gets you banned, no questions asked. People that want to join have to answer a couple of relevant questions. We screen the requests and if you don't have anything on your personal page about cars, have a bunch of weird ("Meet Fat Girls With Guns For Fun" "Nazi Nudies") stuff, or belong to 1000 other groups, we decline the request. We've probably turned down a couple hundred folks and I think we've only banned 3.
We swap info, trade rare parts, set up shows, cruises and meetings.

It's a lot like this forum, just a different format.

I don't care about "likes" or "shares" or any of that other stuff. Hell, I don't really even know what half of it is.

And I should add, I only fool around with it for an hour or two throughout the day at most and the other two guys take care of it the rest of the time.

So far, so good.

So I think FB can be useful and fun. Maybe that's because I'm late comer and don't take it seriously.
 
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I don't want to sound like a male chauvinist but must admit, my wife is one of the main reasons i dislike FB.
I recently told her the phones stay in the vehicle while we're in a restaurant simply because of her temptation to get on that damn FB.

Then i get to work the next morning and my friends say " oh i see you were at Texas road house last evening " " your wife posted it "
Sorry but i have a DEEP seeded hate for FB simply because my privacy is / was being invaded for the entertainment of others.
 
I don't want to sound like a male chauvinist but must admit, my wife is one of the main reasons i dislike FB.
I recently told her the phones stay in the vehicle while we're in a restaurant simply because of her temptation to get on that damn FB.

Then i get to work the next morning and my friends say " oh i see you were at Texas road house last evening " " your wife posted it "
Sorry but i have a DEEP seeded hate for FB simply because my privacy is / was being invaded for the entertainment of others.

I feel your pain buddy. My wife does the EXACT same thing and it drives me nuts. Leave the phone in your purse when we go to dinner. No one cares where we are eating or what we are doing, and I don’t want them knowing either. It’s our business, not the world. She’s seriously addicted and I’m trying to break her addiction.
 
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@Chris and @Katuhstrofik. In your thinking, what distinguishes a forum like this from Facebook. I’m not on Facebook, so I don’t have experience there, but there seems to be some commonalities. E.g. you make posts, you can like a post, can be addictive...

And does your wife or fiancé think you are addicted to the Jeep forum? How do they respond when you say get off Facebook, it’s destroying your life!
 
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@Chris and @Katuhstrofik. In your thinking, what distinguishes a forum like this from Facebook. I’m not on Facebook, so I don’t have experience there, but there seems to be some commonalities. E.g. you make posts, you can like a post, can be addictive...

And does your wife or fiancé think you are addicted to the Jeep forum? How do they respond when you say get off Facebook, it’s destroying your life!
It's different because no one is held accountable and it's generally really just a community of people who think they need validation for their lives to mean anything. That has been my experience 100% of the time I had an account and it's pretty much at least 90% of what I see in my fiance's feed when she scrolls through it.

I think here on the forum we are all pretty well rounded and I think we all have a good understanding of what it takes to earn things through hard work, patience, and practice.

Facebook suffers a lot from "stay at home mommy" syndrome and entitlement left and right.

I'd also like to point out that if this discussion happened on Facebook we'd be three or four replies in before it was completely derailed by people attacking each others ideologies and personal preferences, because people are prompted to publicly provide that info and they are often times all too happy to provide it, making themselves an instant target to opposite people because "muh identity politics".

It's really just a cluster of ticking time bombs and at every given moment there are thousands of bombs exploding. It might sound dramatic, but it really is a fair assessment of the situation. LinkedIn is what Facebook used to be, now Facebook is a daycare with no adults to supervise the children.

Again, just my two cents. ;)

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It's different because no one is held accountable and it's generally really just a community of people who think they need validation for their lives to mean anything. That has been my experience 100% of the time I had an account and it's pretty much at least 90% of what I see in my fiance's feed when she scrolls through it.

I think here on the forum we are all pretty well rounded and I think we all have a good understanding of what it takes to earn things through hard work, patience, and practice.

Facebook suffers a lot from "stay at home mommy" syndrome and entitlement left and right.

I'd also like to point out that if this discussion happened on Facebook we'd be three or four replies in before it was completely derailed by people attacking each others ideologies and personal preferences, because people are prompted to publicly provide that info and they are often times all too happy to provide it, making themselves an instant target to opposite people because "muh identity politics".

It's really just a cluster of ticking time bombs and at every given moment there are thousands of bombs exploding. It might sound dramatic, but it really is a fair assessment of the situation. LinkedIn is what Facebook used to be, now Facebook is a daycare with no adults to supervise the children.

Again, just my two cents. ;)

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Thanks for your two cents. As always, it’s important to not fall into the fallacy of similarity = identity. Shallower thinkers thrive on this formula and use it repeatedly in argument. Just curious in this case, because I have seen forums identified with Facebook and other social media. In my opinion, a forum lends itself to more thoughtful responses than social media. Most of society seems to be moving toward social media, which itself is a moving target.
 
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Thanks for your two cents. As always, it’s important to not fall into the fallacy of similarity = identity. Shallower thinkers thrive on this formula and use it repeatedly in argument. Just curious in this case, because I have seen forums identified with Facebook and other social media. In my opinion, a forum lends itself to more thoughtful responses than social media. Most of society seems to be moving toward social media, which itself is a moving target.
Yeah. It's ironic how antisocial social media really is.

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@Chris and @Katuhstrofik. In your thinking, what distinguishes a forum like this from Facebook. I’m not on Facebook, so I don’t have experience there, but there seems to be some commonalities. E.g. you make posts, you can like a post, can be addictive...

And does your wife or fiancé think you are addicted to the Jeep forum? How do they respond when you say get off Facebook, it’s destroying your life!

Oh man... having grown up on forums in the 90s and 2000s before "social media" even existed, I can say whole heartedly that a forum and Facebook aren't even remotely the same.

I mean technically speaking, anyone could get addicted to anything. Be it a forum, a drug, Facebook, etc. However, the weird thing is, for a while there I was addicted to Facebook. Constantly checking the phone, constantly logging in. With the forum, I don't do that. I mean I do login several times a day, but it's much more productive. I'm not doing it to see who liked my post (I have "Like" notifications turned off on this forum).

In addition to that, Facebook brings some sort of "social media drama" aspect along with it, and no one is immune to it. Go anywhere on Facebook, be it a group post, a post from a news outlet, etc. Read the comment section and prepare to get sucked in. It doesn't matter what ANYONE posts, someone will find something negative to say, and things will spiral out of control. This gets worse when the posts are political in nature.

It's also the whole liking of posts, sharing of posts, and the "social media mentality". I'm not sure I can put it into words, but go spend a year on Facebook and a year on this forum. Come back and tell me which one is more "pleasant" and which one is more "addicting".

My wife has never mentioned me being addicted to the forum. I'm never on it when we're out. For some reason it was having Facebook on my phone that was addicting. I don't know why, but it really does reprogram your mind. There's just sooooo much garbage on there. Even if you belong to what you believe to be the most well mannered Facebook group, it will constantly be littered with assholes (tons and tons of them), re-posts of the same meme and videos over-and-over, and generally useless b.s. and mindless reading.

I'm not trying to say everyone who uses Facebook is addicted. I do feel confident saying that of the modern generation, I'd be willing to bet 8 out of 10 of them are addicted to Facebook and have a problem with it that they just don't realize (i.e. not being able to put down their phone). I'm also not saying everything on there is garbage, but I've been on there long enough to realize that a good amount of it is just mindless, senseless b.s., good for nothing more than wasting your time (and life).

I also don't like what Facebook is trying to do with the internet (kill it essentially), but that's another story altogether.
 
Oh man... having grown up on forums in the 90s and 2000s before "social media" even existed, I can say whole heartedly that a forum and Facebook aren't even remotely the same.

I mean technically speaking, anyone could get addicted to anything. Be it a forum, a drug, Facebook, etc. However, the weird thing is, for a while there I was addicted to Facebook. Constantly checking the phone, constantly logging in. With the forum, I don't do that. I mean I do login several times a day, but it's much more productive. I'm not doing it to see who liked my post (I have "Like" notifications turned off on this forum).

In addition to that, Facebook brings some sort of "social media drama" aspect along with it, and no one is immune to it. Go anywhere on Facebook, be it a group post, a post from a news outlet, etc. Read the comment section and prepare to get sucked in. It doesn't matter what ANYONE posts, someone will find something negative to say, and things will spiral out of control. This gets worse when the posts are political in nature.

It's also the whole liking of posts, sharing of posts, and the "social media mentality". I'm not sure I can put it into words, but go spend a year on Facebook and a year on this forum. Come back and tell me which one is more "pleasant" and which one is more "addicting".

My wife has never mentioned me being addicted to the forum. I'm never on it when we're out. For some reason it was having Facebook on my phone that was addicting. I don't know why, but it really does reprogram your mind. There's just sooooo much garbage on there. Even if you belong to what you believe to be the most well mannered Facebook group, it will constantly be littered with assholes (tons and tons of them), re-posts of the same meme and videos over-and-over, and generally useless b.s. and mindless reading.

I'm not trying to say everyone who uses Facebook is addicted. I do feel confident saying that of the modern generation, I'd be willing to bet 8 out of 10 of them are addicted to Facebook and have a problem with it that they just don't realize (i.e. not being able to put down their phone). I'm also not saying everything on there is garbage, but I've been on there long enough to realize that a good amount of it is just mindless, senseless b.s., good for nothing more than wasting your time (and life).

I also don't like what Facebook is trying to do with the internet (kill it essentially), but that's another story altogether.
So, you’re saying it doesn’t matter if I Like your post? LOL
 
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So, you’re saying it doesn’t matter if I Like your post? LOL

You know what's funny... I disabled the "Like" button on this forum about a year ago, and enough people complained that I brought it back... haha! I figured if people want to have it there, it doesn't bother me. I just disable "Like" notifications, so I don't even know if someone "Likes" my post.
 
I've been liking things in this thread to be ironic :')

I have the app for the forum and I check it often, but it isn't problematic. Like Chris said, it is a very constructive experience and in the few days I've been here you guys have taught me many things and I had no problem paying the membership fee. I honestly feel like the forum deserves my patronage.

If Facebook ever asked me to donate or pay for a subscription while I was using it I'd probably have just cancelled my internet and lived in a closet for the rest of my life LOL.

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