Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts

Finally can start in neutral without pressing the clutch!

HardSell

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Having replaced my modestly built '87 stolen XJ some 5 years ago with a pretty decent 2005 TJR, the second irritation regarding the TJ was needing to depress the clutch in order to fire the engine. Reaching around the steering column through the window to start the TJ when working on it under hood was not possible as it was with the Cherokee. The '87 XJ solution to the safety issue of accidentally running over someone in case of a gear engaged start was to require 6 revolutions before the pcm would fire the engine. Well, that did shorten battery and starter lives by 30% over the years. Even a deep cycle battery rarely lasted much beyond the warranty period and I never regretted carrying a spare starter with a lifetime warranty. Starters in that wondrous Cherokee were virtually plug and play. I love the instant fire the TJ gives and the battery in it is about 12 years old and shows no sign of giving up despite being completely discharged when I first test drove this TJR some 5 years ago. The 2005 Rubicon does have a space allocated for the clutch safety defeat fuse, but that's all it is, a space. There's no circuit to fuse in the box under the hood. So, under the dash I went. 1) remove the cover panel under the instrument cluster..... easy, two screws. The front seat then must be removed, and it's mounted just like the '87 Cherokee, except a lot heavier! As I've worked on the TJ, I've come to discover why it gets horrible mileage compared to the XJ. Everything is so much heavier than the XJ! It's less of a brick than it's a block of concrete. So, the seat's out and there's the switch.....waaaaaay up in the foot well, nearly invisible and hard to reach. After many contortions and clipping the over strong stud to remove the crazy connector from the associated brace I was finally able to work with it from a sitting position after reinstalling the seat. I did not want to destroy the connector, but this was not a simple two conductor plug. After awhile and some struggle cursing the engineers I was able to pry a tab and disconnect. I noticed the leads in the supply side of the connector were spaced exactly the same as the fuses. Finally, a stroke of luck...I needed to only press a 10 amp fuse in there, cable tie the wires to the brace to easily reach behind the 2 screw panel leaving the original setup for some future owner to restore. The first irritation? No accessory compartments on the dash! Everything on the dash slides out the window onto the road or trail you're driving. The solution? These are available on Amazon and are necessary.

1)Dashboard Storage Box Organizer Tray for 1997-2006 Jeep Wrangler TJ,Interior Accessories​

2)u-Box TJ Wrangler Dashboard Tray Wallet Purse Phone Key Storage Box Container Organizer Compatible with Jeep Wrangler TJ 1997-2006​

Removing the back seat is also liberating. The TJ is far from good design. Having wheeled and worked on a nearly 20 year older, modestly built XJ has proven that to me, but the XJs are gone and the TJ's shortcomings go to show how terrible everything else is. The JLs are electrical nightmares as aging Pentastars are proving not to be the equal of the 4.0.
 
The 2005-6 Rubicons don’t have the wiring for the clutch safety switch bypass because the clutch safety switch is disabled in 4 low. In other words, when you are in 4 low, you can start it in gear. No fuse required.
 
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The 2005-6 Rubicons don’t have the wiring for the clutch safety switch bypass because the clutch safety switch is disabled in 4 low. In other words, when you are in 4 low, you can start it in gear. No fuse required.

I know. I don't like parking it in 4 low to be able to neutral start it.
 
I was hoping for pics of the fuse in the clutch end of the wiring.

Not necessary. My verbal description is thorough. Just get under the dash on your back and begin reaching. The fuse is pushed into the hot voltage end not the end going through the fire wall to the clutch reservoir.
 
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Nah. This thread was a waste of my time until the last few posts. Now, I'll just sit and eat my popcorn.
You chose to waste your time reading, responding, poking, and dodging a challenge to add your knowledge. That indicates the presence of an empty suit. Enjoy the popcorn.
 
You chose to waste your time reading, responding, poking, and dodging a challenge to add your knowledge. That indicates the presence of an empty suit. Enjoy the popcorn.

To say your post was unreadable is a bit of an overstatement. To say its readability could be significantly improved is a massive understatement. Pics of your steps would be helpful. No need for pics of the sand in your vagina however, unless you're actually making a pearl down there.
 
Pics of your steps would be helpful. No need for pics of the sand in your vagina however, unless you're actually making a pearl down there.

I hadn't realized that being an illustrator or photographer for publications intended for toddlers was expected. Secondly, I didn't realize this forum was frequented by sexual perverts.
 
My 99 Sahara has a fuse that can be pulled to bypass safety switch if memory serves.

I just use heel/toe on clutch and brake pedal if needing to start on grade, etc. so fuse has been left as is
 
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Not necessary. My verbal description is thorough. Just get under the dash on your back and begin reaching. The fuse is pushed into the hot voltage end not the end going through the fire wall to the clutch reservoir.

Your verbal description is terrible and needs paragraphs. You know, those things that make it easier for the reader to follow along.

But you’re the verbal expert, right?

And he’s right, a photo would actually help. I get it though, it’s hard to see when you’re wrong. It’s that pesky little thing called pride. You know, the original sin?

Tends to cloud one’s judgment but it helps (for me at least) when others call me out on it.

Anyways, carry on but tread carefully. If this is going to turn into an argument thread it will be abruptly shut down.
 
Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ engine mounts