Fix or Farewell?

One of the things that I love about the TJ is that you can work on it (unlike a lot of newer vehicles) so most the work I have done myself. I paid $4500 cash for it 5 years ago, and have enjoyed not having a car payment for the past few years, especially trying to help my two sons get vehicles as they went off to college. So 3 of our 4 vehicles are 13 yo or older. It hurts to consider selling it (as it has with prior TJ and YJ), but I'm in grad school again now living in a rental home and don't have the time or a location to give to engine tear down.

Got a reasonable estimate on what I could sell it for?

re sale price, it would help if you can post up some pics, including underneath.
 
Hoping for some community insight on whether to keep dumping money down the black hole.

my mechanic told me that I've got a blown head gasket and essentially said its not worth putting more money into it . At this point, I feel like I'm burning money instead of gasoline in it. Am I really looking at a motor replacement for the blown head gasket? This is my daily driver, so it's not just a toy I can park and tinker on in my spare time. Is it worth fixing, or time to farewell it?
Any thoughts?

You're going to have to fix it to get anything for it. Might as well keep it after that.
p.s. I say the same thing about my wife. 🤫
 
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…and it doesn’t cost much to have someone check the head (or deck it).

I did this to similar higher mileage 2.5, it lived on to fight another day and then some more with the next owner.
 
It's almost never worth replacing an engine or doing major engine work in a vehicle if you have to pay for the labor. Especially on a 25 year old Jeep with almost 200,000 miles that is a 4 cylinder and not worth much money if the engine was good. I would sell and get something else, another TJ if you still really want one.
 
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It's almost never worth replacing an engine or doing major engine work in a vehicle if you have to pay for the labor. Especially on a 25 year old Jeep with almost 200,000 miles that is a 4 cylinder and not worth much money if the engine was good. I would sell and get something else, another TJ if you still really want one.
That’s really the deal, if you have to pay for the labor it swings the keep or sell metrics substantially
 
get your self a head gasket leak test kit. it doesnt cost much and check the oil if its milky its 100% a head gasket and no hard to do the decking of the head at a machine shop very well could take longer than removing the head an reinstalling it.

also look at your clutch fan for overheating i moved to 2 electric fans on my 2000 tj 2.5l and have a hard time in Louisiana summers getting it up to temp and it gave me a ton of room without the giant shroud.

Forgot to add that to just replaced the fan clutch too. Picked it up from my mechanic this morning, he replaced my plugs for free (they were trashed despite only being a couple of month old). After checking with an engine repair shop nearby, he said he thinks the engine has overheated so much that it’s shot
 
My thoughts too. Pretty normal list for a 25year old vehicle. I like cars that age and it's always a big wave of parts like this when you first buy them, then they're cheaper than a payment after that wave lol

I get that too, but I’ve oened/maintained it for 5 years and all of this has hit in the past 6 months. Feels like it’s cascading towards catastrophe right now.
 
On average, you have driven cheap, even if you burned it.

At any sell price you are way ahead of most consumers.

If you (or I) wanted a jeep with less headaches and I’d consider selling.

A good 4.0 sport or x might thrill you.
 
I am going to tell you something that others will not.

I have a friend who works at a dealership where the clientele are of substantial means. He is always driving a new (to him) car. These people come in for repairs several times and they get frustrated because the car needs maintenance. Once they are fed up they want a new car so they literally sell him their vehicles that need some work and he buys them real cheap because people are fed up. He then spends a little time and money and is now diving a 5 year old car be bought for scrap value. When he gets his newly acquired vehicle running he sells the previous acquisition.

I am not going to imply your mechanic is hoping you do the same because I have no idea what condition your jeep is in. The reason I am telling you this is so you can make an informed decision.

You have replaced a lot of maintenance parts that were probably over due anyway. The one thing, in my mind, that you did not do is chemically flush your system, as stated above. This is a must do. These cooling systems have less fluid than a six pack of beer and if not running optimally will cause issues.

As stated above, Dex Jeeps is not all that far from you and he appears to be an honest person who would fix the issues. If you look at it from another perspective of fixing it, it is only 2 car payments vs 60 car payments.
 
But...Remember even if you fixed this issue then you still have a 25 year old worn out vehicle with everything else about ready to fail. Wiring, sensors, transmission, anything rubber, bushings, steering. Wheel bearings, pinion bearings, carrier bearings, any million bearings in the transfer case, u joints, etc... don't forget the heat and/or AC components will be ready to fail. There is a reason why older vehicles are so much cheaper than newer vehicles. The market doesn't lie. Especially if you can't DIY the expensive stuff, it is a tough proposition for a daily driver.
 
I am going to tell you something that others will not.

I have a friend who works at a dealership where the clientele are of substantial means. He is always driving a new (to him) car. These people come in for repairs several times and they get frustrated because the car needs maintenance. Once they are fed up they want a new car so they literally sell him their vehicles that need some work and he buys them real cheap because people are fed up. He then spends a little time and money and is now diving a 5 year old car be bought for scrap value. When he gets his newly acquired vehicle running he sells the previous acquisition.

I am not going to imply your mechanic is hoping you do the same because I have no idea what condition your jeep is in. The reason I am telling you this is so you can make an informed decision.

You have replaced a lot of maintenance parts that were probably over due anyway. The one thing, in my mind, that you did not do is chemically flush your system, as stated above. This is a must do. These cooling systems have less fluid than a six pack of beer and if not running optimally will cause issues.

As stated above, Dex Jeeps is not all that far from you and he appears to be an honest person who would fix the issues. If you look at it from another perspective of fixing it, it is only 2 car payments vs 60 car payments.

He has a good point. This happens a lot in our “I want ot perfect and right now” world-

I sold a work van once I really liked because it had one issue, and at the time not a lot of people new how to fix it.

I traded it in for little or nothing.....and someone else fixed it and I saw it around on jobs for years.

All the best

Andy
 
I would recommend going to Autozone and renting a combustion gas tester. You fill it with special blue fluid, stick it on top of the radiator cap hole, and the fluid turns yellow if there is a head gasket leak.

I know of a Porsche that had a bunch of parts replaced at a professional shop, trying to fix an overheating issue. It was still overheating and they condemned the engine as a failed head gasket. Turned out the only problem was the water pump. They had put in a new aftermarket water pump during all the parts changing but it failed again and they never bothered to check that since it was new. A $10 combustion fluid tester told the truth.
 
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That is EXACTLY why I'm driving a 40 year old car that I've put more than its "worth" on paper into it a couple or three times now. Never mind that I want nothing to do with the bullshit electronics on newer cars.

The true, "bottom line" number is COST PER MILE. Your 80's Benz likely will have a low cost per mile compared to a new car ! Most people don't get this !