Hood insulation

When we bought my daughter's first Jeep, the previous owner had a hood bra on it. When I brought it home and removed it, all the paint flaked off. I had to repaint that area temporarily until I found another hood locally that was the same color.

I've never bought a vehicle with a bra or one of those plastic bug shields that didn't have paint damage worse than it would have had without.
 
I've never bought a vehicle with a bra or one of those plastic bug shields that didn't have paint damage worse than it would have had without.

I once knew a TJ from Nashville with no paint damage. :cool: @NashvilleTJ has come a LONG way. (y)



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I have a 2005 TJ and I’m getting ready to have the hood painted. I am wanting to put insulation under the hood to keep the heat down and protect the paint. Any suggestions on what to order and from where to get it? Thanks

I have crows feet on both of my 05’s. My 04 is fine. Crows feet is caused by heat. Presumably something in the paint process on 05’s contributed to this. I’ve seen other complaints in threads over the years on 05’s. If I was having mine repainted I would be looking at heatshield too out of worry. But seeing that other years don’t have the problem, I’m not sure it would be necessary. Still, it won’t hurt.
 
Presumably something in the paint process on 05’s contributed to this.

I know some manufactures were switching over to water based paints around that time. Any idea what came on these Jeeps?
 
I know some manufactures were switching over to water based paints around that time. Any idea what came on these Jeeps?

my 06 has it too but was manufactured in late 05. I seem to hear more about it on Flame Red in particular.

I don't know on the water based paint thing. I'd heard that as an explanation for paint problems on BMW's in the 90s, so it would make sense that something that was in style in Germany a few years earlier would find its way to Chrysler and Jeep while it was under German rule.
 
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Wonder too if it was a dealer installed option. I know a lot of dealers would load up cars with JC Whitney catalog stuff and mark the crap out of it.

-Mac
 
04 and 05 Unlimiteds (standard equipment). IIRC, when I bought my 04 new, the dealership had literature that said the Unlimiteds came with insulated carpet and hood insulation to make them quieter.

Interesting. Did they put the emissions sticker somewhere else? Strange that the factory would cover it up. Or maybe it's easy to remove.
 
Interesting. Did they put the emissions sticker somewhere else? Strange that the factory would cover it up. Or maybe it's easy to remove.

Astute observation. I don't remember where the sticker was on my 05 but I'm pretty sure they can't legally cover it up. Maybe they put them down where the ABS would have gone (since there was no ABS on disc brake D44s which all LJs came with).
 
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Astute observation. I don't remember where the sticker was on my 05 but I'm pretty sure they can't legally cover it up. Maybe they put them down where the ABS would have gone (since there was no ABS on disc brake D44s which all LJs came with).

Yep, that's where my emission sticker is, on the ABS tray.
 
I know some manufactures were switching over to water based paints around that time. Any idea what came on these Jeeps?

I don’t know. I haven’t traced the issue that far. I’ve been tempted to buy a new hood because of the crows feet and several small dents, but unless they are pristine OEM hoods, they are aftermarket’s with a single window pisser I’m not too fond of.

If Mercedes was using water based paints in the 90’s, and they joined hands with Chrysler in 05, that could explain the anomaly of 05-06. Wouldn’t explain the one guy who complained about his 04’, but maybe the merger happened late that year.
 
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I don’t know. I haven’t traced the issue that far. I’ve been tempted to buy a new hood because of the crows feet and several small dents, but unless they are pristine OEM hoods, they are aftermarket’s with a single window pisser I’m not too fond of.

If Mercedes was using water based paints in the 90’s, and they joined hands with Chrysler in 05, that could explain the anomaly of 05-06. Wouldn’t explain the one guy who complained about his 04’, but maybe the merger happened late that year.

The merger was in 1998 but I figure if it took them until 05 to get their transmission and ignition system into the TJ, it might have taken a while to change up the paint process as well.
 
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I don’t know. I haven’t traced the issue that far. I’ve been tempted to buy a new hood because of the crows feet and several small dents, but unless they are pristine OEM hoods, they are aftermarket’s with a single window pisser I’m not too fond of.

If Mercedes was using water based paints in the 90’s, and they joined hands with Chrysler in 05, that could explain the anomaly of 05-06. Wouldn’t explain the one guy who complained about his 04’, but maybe the merger happened late that year.

My son's 03 and my daughter's 04 both have quite a bit of "crows feet" on their hoods. I don't think it's a 05 -06 exclusively. As a matter of fact, I think that Mopar in general has had poor painting practices over the years. I've seen many Dakotas and early Durangos, Concords, Neons, etc. with paint peeling, crows feet, clear coat peeling, etc.
 
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I suppose I could add some useful relevant content here. I decided to add some underhood insulation for sound deadening reasons. Chose the DEI black fibrous version. They also make a heat reflective silver one, which I think is foam core.
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As a byproduct it reduces hood outer surface temps by a massive amount. After a 5 hour drive to Moab, the hood was cool to the touch.

My purpose was reduction of engine noise coming into the interior and I know most aren't interested in that. It does perform well at that task, especially noticeable at low speeds. But also standing outside the vehicle at idle.

It obviously doen't do anything to help underhood air temps. I may at some point get a replacement hood and have a speed shop louvre it following the old Oman 4x4 location. A look more akin the the FJ40 hood.

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This reduces underhood air pressure at highway speed and evacuates hot air from the area around the intake manifold/precats more effectively.