How much of the Johnny Joint shank can be showing on Savvy control arms?

[jeep_boss]

I agree. I can obviously figure it out on my own (or on the forum), but it would be a lot easier if they included instructions.

Yep, you have to rely upon tribal knowledge most of the time, and that can be dangerous depending on the sources. These companies should at a minimum, provide info on certain aspects such as (exactly) what you had asked in this thread. I just SMH vigorously when I receive a product - (especially for those marketed as DIY), that have no instructions not support.

Someone really needs to shake up the industry and set some standards!

 

[Drizit]

That's everything these days. Bought a new phone or computer, or any personal electronics lately? How about a major appliance? Nothing comes with instructions or even a link to instructions, you are expected to go online and figure it out yourself. Except for stuff from ikea, that still comes with the same quality hieroglyphics it always has... Good old dependable ikea.

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There must have been a time
when we could have said no.

 

[CybrSlydr]

What do Johnny Joints replace?

 

[jeep_boss]

That's everything these days. Bought a new phone or computer, or any personal electronics lately? How about a major appliance? Nothing comes with instructions or even a link to instructions, you are expected to go online and figure it out yourself. Except for stuff from ikea, that still comes with the same quality hieroglyphics it always has... Good old dependable ikea.

—
There must have been a time
when we could have said no.

Yeah, I can see how larger companies can cheap out and not provide instructions on certain products. Some of it is either common knowledge or common sense. What bugs me though, are the products that are not as common - or those rare enough where the chances are that no one else has or will create a YT video et al. I have passed on a couple of products in the past that I could not confirm the existence of intstructions, documentation, or post sales support. Sometimes though, all it takes is an intelligent complaint to a company's sales or product manager to get them to create / publish that info!

Anyways, sorry to hijack!

 

[jeep_boss]

What do Johnny Joints replace?

There were a couple of good threads on JJ's vs Heim joints vs. others. Do a search using those keywords

 

[CybrSlydr]

There were a couple of good threads on JJ's vs Heim joints vs. others. Do a search using those keywords

I was more asking, what would break on my Jeep that I would use Johnny Joints to fix it?

 

[Mike_H]

I was more asking, what would break on my Jeep that I would use Johnny Joints to fix it?

Johnny joints are rod ends that terminate control arms

 

[Chris]

I was more asking, what would break on my Jeep that I would use Johnny Joints to fix it?

I don't think it's so much that you'd break anything, it's just that a Johnny Joint is a rebuildable joint that is going to offer maximum misalignment over a stock rubber bushing for instance. You wouldn't really need a Johnny Joint unless you were planning on doing some serious off-roading. Even for my application they are overkill. I'm just doing it just because, haha.

 

[CybrSlydr]

I don't think it's so much that you'd break anything, it's just that a Johnny Joint is a rebuildable joint that is going to offer maximum misalignment over a stock rubber bushing for instance. You wouldn't really need a Johnny Joint unless you were planning on doing some serious off-roading. Even for my application they are overkill. I'm just doing it just because, haha.

Nothing wrong with that - I'm all for "bomb-proofing" my vehicle.

I don't think you understand what I meant by "what would I have to break" - I had no idea what a Johnny Joint was or what it replaced. Thanks to Ranger Bob, I now know they're the bearings at the end of the vehicle's control arms. That's what I was asking - like if I said, "What would I have to break that a CurrieLync would replace?" The answer is the tie-rod. That's what I'm getting at.

 

[Chris]

Nothing wrong with that - I'm all for "bomb-proofing" my vehicle.

I don't think you understand what I meant by "what would I have to break" - I had no idea what a Johnny Joint was or what it replaced. Thanks to Ranger Bob, I now know they're the bearings at the end of the vehicle's control arms. That's what I was asking - like if I said, "What would I have to break that a CurrieLync would replace?" The answer is the tie-rod. That's what I'm getting at.

Oh, my bad! Thanks for explaining that, because you're right, I didn't understand fully what you meant by that!

 

[CybrSlydr]

Oh, my bad! Thanks for explaining that, because you're right, I didn't understand fully what you meant by that!

Yeah, we're playing a bit of TJ Jeopardy here - give the answer and ask for the question! It was really awkward to figure out what to say.

 

[CybrSlydr]

So, just to supplement my knowledge on these, it appears that since they're just the end of the control arms that they only work on adjustable control arms? Hence the threading?

 

[Drizit]

The ones that Chris has yes. They also make weld on one's with no threaded shank to install on fixed length arms. They also have press in units to replace the axle side upper control arm bushings as those are part of the axle not the arm.

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There must have been a time
when we could have said no.