Did you ever pick it up? I hope you can get her Jeep back on the road soon
No I didn't. She decided that she would sell the Jeep for now and then once she's done with college and has a job then get another TJ.
Did you ever pick it up? I hope you can get her Jeep back on the road soon
Used to be the same way here, but the Insurers didn't like missing out on the premiums. Now the person who does the most miles in the vehicle must be the insured party and anyone who is an additional driver must do less than 50% of the vehicle's annual mileage. You used to be able to go ahead and do it anyway, but risk that as soon as there was an accident the insurer would look in to it and try to deny cover. Even that is pretty tough now as almost any policy with a young driver on it requires a 'black box' to be installed in the car, this is able to recognise who is in the car as it links to your mobile phone. So you would have to let your son or daughter drive around with your phone most of the time to get away with it.Insurance prices suck for 17 year olds over here too. We just put their cars under our name. There’s no way I’d pay those insurance premiums. I’m not that rich and stupid.
Not a bad idea at all. Save some money and find a nice one down the roadNo I didn't. She decided that she would sell the Jeep for now and then once she's done with college and has a job then get another TJ.
Insurance prices suck for 17 year olds over here too. We just put their cars under our name. There’s no way I’d pay those insurance premiums. I’m not that rich and stupid.
You guys have it tough. As I understand it, engine size is directly correlated to the cost of the insurance. This is why learners are best insured with just a 1L engine. Is that correct? It works much differently in the states. A 30+ old car with a V8 will be way cheaper than a new car regardless of engine. Driving records and age are the biggest factors over here.Used to be the same way here, but the Insurers didn't like missing out on the premiums. Now the person who does the most miles in the vehicle must be the insured party and anyone who is an additional driver must do less than 50% of the vehicle's annual mileage. You used to be able to go ahead and do it anyway, but risk that as soon as there was an accident the insurer would look in to it and try to deny cover. Even that is pretty tough now as almost any policy with a young driver on it requires a 'black box' to be installed in the car, this is able to recognise who is in the car as it links to your mobile phone. So you would have to let your son or daughter drive around with your phone most of the time to get away with it.
Of course, one result is that we now have an epidemic of young uninsured drivers on the road who can't afford the premium but are desperate to drive anyway. So when you get hit by one of them you have to claim through your own policy and the premium shoots up the next year. Suffice to say my pension pot has a fair few insurers' shares in it, might as well get some benefit from the 'heads they win' tails we lose' approach.
But apologies, I am dragging this thread way off topic.
My daughters insurance is $80 a month. She is 18.You guys have it tough. As I understand it, engine size is directly correlated to the cost of the insurance. This is why learners are best insured with just a 1L engine. Is that correct? It works much differently in the states. A 30+ old car with a V8 will be way cheaper than a new car regardless of engine. Driving records and age are the biggest factors over here.
I have friends in the UK that were shocked when I told them that, my then 18yo son, drove an Audi with a 2.0L turbo in it. They couldn't figure out how that was possible. Of course, it wasn't new (10 years old at the time) so it wasn't that expensive. Ever wonder why cars are so small there? Besides "petrol" being expensive, the cost to drive it is pretty hefty.My daughters insurance is $80 a month. She is 18.
my sons insurance is $220 a month. He is 19.
a lot of it accounts for the type of car they drive. And the chromosomes.
they are insured on all 5 of the vehicles.
Oh ya.I have friends in the UK that were shocked when I told them that, my then 18yo son, drove an Audi with a 2.0L turbo in it. They couldn't figure out how that was possible. Of course, it wasn't new (10 years old at the time) so it wasn't that expensive. Ever wonder why cars are so small there? Besides "petrol" being expensive, the cost to drive it is pretty hefty.
That's nuts especially in a station wagon although I did do 210kph in a BMW turbo diesel SUV on the autobahn. Loaded up with work equipment and 4 guys pushing the car as fast as it would go. Such a cool experience.Oh ya.
I had an opel omega station wagon when I lived in Germany. The vin number said 1.8l. It was insured with a 1.8L
the car had a turbo 2.8l in it. Crazy fast had no issue running the autobahn at 280kph.
my brother ran with some local kids that did engine swaps like that all the time. In tiny little cars like what we would call a Ford Fiesta.
Tough love parenting - love it.My son blew up the motor in his forester. Also another great vehicle.
But they don’t like running on 1/3 of a quart of oil.
how that motor didn’t seize is beyond me. His mistake. His pocketbook.
I think it is pretty complex, but engine power and the cost of repairing the vehicle being insured are big elements. Age of the vehicle isn't. That only comes in once a car is more than 30 years old and can be insured on a classic, limited mileage policy.You guys have it tough. As I understand it, engine size is directly correlated to the cost of the insurance. This is why learners are best insured with just a 1L engine. Is that correct? It works much differently in the states. A 30+ old car with a V8 will be way cheaper than a new car regardless of engine. Driving records and age are the biggest factors over here.
Its the disparity that is the issue. My daughter in a 1.0l tiny hatchback is about $2300 a year, for me to insure a 5.0l supercharged F-Type Jaguar with 550bhp is less about $400 a year. One of the few benefits of being old I guess!I have friends in the UK that were shocked when I told them that, my then 18yo son, drove an Audi with a 2.0L turbo in it. They couldn't figure out how that was possible. Of course, it wasn't new (10 years old at the time) so it wasn't that expensive. Ever wonder why cars are so small there? Besides "petrol" being expensive, the cost to drive it is pretty hefty.
Rick, I know lake Isabella is a small community, but do you remember which part? I spent many great days at my grandfathers place from 1970 to 1999 when he passed and my parents sold the place. Was on chain and Curran. Close to bodfish.
I'll Bring this back from the past....
My daughter is buying her first vehicle and it's a TJ Of Course....
Dad's spoiled her and bought her all her other cars so this is a milestone.
It's a 2000 Sahara 5 speed manual with a Dana 44 rear axle.
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It hasn't had the easiest of lives so far so it'll take a little TLC.....
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We did a 20 hour round trip drive to ID to pick it up from @reddvltj . Since he'd joined the Rubicon family he didn't need the Sahara anymore.
Stopped at the summit on Hwy 93 to check all the straps and let the pop old truck cool off a little.
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Already picked up some used Currie 4" springs and Metal Cloak control arms. It needs a new lower control arm bracket which will be getting replaced with Iron Rock brackets since they seem to be some of the better offered on the market.
Sounds like a great start with that 5 speed and Dana 44.