ok used the search and not seeing anything ... after seeing a jeep get pulled out in front of and the damage to the truck... probably totaled and damage to the jeep .. bent on the stinger w/no other damage ...the wife has green lighted a new bumper .... so whats good quality with low ride stinger or bull bar ..one that takes a licking and keeps on ticking ..have a winch already and will be replacing the lights as one is out