Utah Moab 2024 JuneFest 9th-15th

[lBasket]

I do think you could probably plan a week in CO with less driving than some of the trips Victor detailed, but not if you were specifically trying to hit the difficult trails. Just trying to hit those would be a lot more spread out.

 

[Woodrow]

Trail 15 is the one that BleepinJeep runs frequently.

Whole different deal with the mud.

 

[Woodrow]

CA has a lot of options; Rubicon, Dusy-Ershim, Fordyce, JV. I totally want to go.

Leaving for Fordyce tomorrow

 

[JMT]

Leaving for Fordyce tomorrow

I know. I'm jealous and trying not to think about you right now, so quit.

 

[Apparition]

I do think you could probably plan a week in CO with less driving than some of the trips Victor detailed, but not if you were specifically trying to hit the difficult trails. Just trying to hit those would be a lot more spread out.

On my first trip to CO we were in the Colorado Springs area my buddy took us on all these trails that amounted to a dusty drive with rare scenery.

I'm ok with scenic trails or obstacle laden trails but if they provide neither then I could pass. Preferably they have both.

 

[lBasket]

On my first trip to CO we were in the Colorado Springs area my buddy took us on all these trails that amounted to a dusty drive with rare scenery.

I'm ok with scenic trails or obstacle laden trails but if they provide neither then I could pass. Preferably they have both.

Yes I would bet he took you to the rampart range/pike national Forest area. Pretty much where I live now. It's close to the city and better than nothing but you could drive a sedan through probably 85% of it.

I think we most likely would be in the San Juans, where there is the alpine loop and poughkeepsie and stuff. It'd be like shelf road above tree line views, nothing like the stuff by the springs lol.

I think that would put you a few (3-4 maybe? Rough guess) hours from holy Cross, grand junction area, Independence stuff.

If you were fine with milder scenic trails you could spend a week in San juan area pretty easily I'd think (I'm doing it next week so we'll see), but everyone wanting to do the much harder trails will have a lot of driving ahead of them.

 

[Apparition]

Yes I would bet he took you to the rampart range/pike national Forest area. Pretty much where I live now. It's close to the city and better than nothing but you could drive a sedan through probably 85% of it.

I think we most likely would be in the San Juans, where there is the alpine loop and poughkeepsie and stuff. It'd be like shelf road above tree line views, nothing like the stuff by the springs lol.

I think that would put you a few (3-4 maybe? Rough guess) hours from holy Cross, grand junction area, Independence stuff.

If you were fine with milder scenic trails you could spend a week in San juan area pretty easily I'd think (I'm doing it next week so we'll see), but everyone wanting to do the much harder trails will have a lot of driving ahead of them.

Yeah the next trip I went and hit all the alpine stuff and it was very scenic. It was the year Poughkeepsie was shut down.

 

[gasiorv]

These are the muddy trails you're talking about? This is a good plan, you can really see why Moab is a such a good place for the TJ fest though with how many times you need to pack up and move on a trip like this.

The Missouri, Arkansas, and Oklahoma trails listed there are actually pretty decent even when it rains. They will be slick and have a little mud, but not the same kind of mud (clay) as East TN, Alabama, and Kentucky. The trails in TN, AL, and KY have a good bit of rock, some trails are all rock, it is just that little bit of clay in between the rocks that will rock your world if it gets wet. AOP in TN is by far the hardest place I have ever wheeled and I had fun doing it, but it is not for everyone. Last trip to AOP in January one guy in our group actually threw a hissy fit and took his ball and went to town to get Mexican food because he was so tired of not being able to make anything and thought we were picking the trails on purpose to make him struggle. Hell, we were all struggling, I even threw a bit of a fit when I backed into a tree and crushed my rear corner and it was already crushed to begin with.

I don't want to scare anyone away, I love wheeling in the Southeast and would encourage everyone to get out there and wheel wherever you get the chance and opportunity. Just pointing out that wheeling in different parts of the country is different, all good, just different.

 

[lBasket]

The Missouri, Arkansas, and Oklahoma trails listed there are actually pretty decent even when it rains. They will be slick and have a little mud, but not the same kind of mud (clay) as East TN, Alabama, and Kentucky. The trails in TN, AL, and KY have a good bit of rock, some trails are all rock, it is just that little bit of clay in between the rocks that will rock your world if it gets wet. AOP in TN is by far the hardest place I have ever wheeled and I had fun doing it, but it is not for everyone. Last trip to AOP in January one guy in our group actually threw a hissy fit and took his ball and went to town to get Mexican food because he was so tired of not being able to make anything and thought we were picking the trails on purpose to make him struggle. Hell, we were all struggling, I even threw a bit of a fit when I backed into a tree and crushed my rear corner and it was already crushed to begin with.

I've never really driven in any mud like that but I want to say I'd enjoy it. I wouldn't enjoy the mud itself but the sand in Moab is annoying too so whatever lol.

Is it just the trails you run, or is it a lot more likely to get rollovers and body damage out there?

I don't want to scare anyone away, I love wheeling in the Southeast and would encourage everyone to get out there and wheel wherever you get the chance and opportunity. Just pointing out that wheeling in different parts of the country is different, all good, just different.

 

[gasiorv]

I would say it is mostly the trails that we pick. We are purposely running hard trails. But the trees and the overall tightness of the trails is what makes you more likely to get body damage.

Here is a good short video of when it is a little wet. We had a lot of fun that day but we had to pull cable a few times. My front locker quit working on me and I was struggling everywhere that day.

Here is a typical trail at Hawk Pride in Alabama when it is dry, you can see the dry clay between the rocks.

I didn't make it up this trail (Brokefoot) this past weekend because it was so muddy and slick and had NO traction and i walked up it in that video.

Here is Jeff showing us how to make upper brokefoot right side at Hawk Pride, that section is not easy!! That is pretty dry, it is basically rock bouncer line when it is wet.

Come on over and we will show you around!! TJ on 33s with lockers and a tummy tuck can do a lot of trails at Hot Springs and there is plenty at Windrock that can be done. Not sure you would have much fun at Hawk Pride or SMORR on 33's (I would recommend 35s) but you never know if you don't go put tires on it.

 

[NashvilleTJ]

I would say it is mostly the trails that we pick. We are purposely running hard trails. But the trees and the overall tightness of the trails is what makes you more likely to get body damage.

Here is a good short video of when it is a little wet. We had a lot of fun that day but we had to pull cable a few times. My front locker quit working on me and I was struggling everywhere that day.

Here is a typical trail at Hawk Pride in Alabama when it is dry, you can see the dry clay between the rocks.

I didn't make it up this trail (Brokefoot) this past weekend because it was so muddy and slick and had NO traction and i walked up it in that video.

Here is Jeff showing us how to make upper brokefoot right side at Hawk Pride, that section is not easy!! That is pretty dry, it is basically rock bouncer line when it is wet.

Come on over and we will show you around!! TJ on 33s with lockers and a tummy tuck can do a lot of trails at Hot Springs and there is plenty at Windrock that can be done. Not sure you would have much fun at Hawk Pride or SMORR on 33's (I would recommend 35s) but you never know if you don't go put tires on it.

"What's he compensating for?"

Best line ever.

 

[lBasket]

I would say it is mostly the trails that we pick. We are purposely running hard trails. But the trees and the overall tightness of the trails is what makes you more likely to get body damage.

Here is a good short video of when it is a little wet. We had a lot of fun that day but we had to pull cable a few times. My front locker quit working on me and I was struggling everywhere that day.

hemi powah

Here is a typical trail at Hawk Pride in Alabama when it is dry, you can see the dry clay between the rocks.

This one looks really cool. I like the tree tunnel effect.

I didn't make it up this trail (Brokefoot) this past weekend because it was so muddy and slick and had NO traction and i walked up it in that video.

Here is Jeff showing us how to make upper brokefoot right side at Hawk Pride, that section is not easy!! That is pretty dry, it is basically rock bouncer line when it is wet.

Come on over and we will show you around!! TJ on 33s with lockers and a tummy tuck can do a lot of trails at Hot Springs and there is plenty at Windrock that can be done. Not sure you would have much fun at Hawk Pride or SMORR on 33's (I would recommend 35s) but you never know if you don't go put tires on it.

Tempting... this looks really cool. It would be fun to experience wheeling in a different region for sure. I'll have to think about making that happen... what is the best time for it down there?

 

[gasiorv]

Tempting... this looks really cool. It would be fun to experience wheeling in a different region for sure. I'll have to think about making that happen... what is the best time for it down there?

I think Sept and October is the best time. Less chance of rain, everything is pretty dry after the summer heat and the heat is "starting" to break. The wheeling is really good!

But if you really want an experience we do a January trip every year that we call freeze fest and it always turns out to be an adventure. I am the old guy in the group with most everyone being thirty somethings and you would fit right in. It is a mix of vehicles from Full Size Land cruisers, Samurais on 35s, Razrs, JKU on 40's, etc... Wheel all day in whatever nature throws us (rain, ice, snow, and even an occasional blue sky) and talk about the adventures around a camp fire with a Gentlemen Jack at night. Good times!

Examples from a few trips:

 

[lBasket]

I think Sept and October is the best time. Less chance of rain, everything is pretty dry after the summer heat and the heat is "starting" to break. The wheeling is really good!

But if you really want an experience we do a January trip every year that we call freeze fest and it always turns out to be an adventure. I am the old guy in the group with most everyone being thirty somethings and you would fit right in. It is a mix of vehicles from Full Size Land cruisers, Samurais on 35s, Razrs, JKU on 40's, etc... Wheel all day in whatever nature throws us (rain, ice, snow, and even an occasional blue sky) and talk about the adventures around a camp fire with a Gentlemen Jack at night. Good times!

It does look really fun. Would I be the smallest jeep in the group holding people back or would there be other people with similar builds? I would really enjoy an opportunity to go somewhere else to wheel and experience something new and meet some new people. Seems like a chill group of dudes from those vids.

I've also hardly done any winter wheeling so motivation to get into that might be good

Examples from a few trips:

Looks fun. Definitely way different than what it's like out here! Looks like LONG days with you getting back after dark?

It took me like 2 full minutes to realize that was your jeep covered in mud and not just some dude that sounded like you in a brown jeep haha!