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Some of the drivers are tools.

Delete right after the lot and your warranty is instantly void and no dealer and many independent shops won’t work on them.

Trumps EPA director has told them to ease off, but who knows what will happen next go around.

I wouldn't delete one till after warranty was gone.
 
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The cost and emissions on the newer ones is out of hand, but I don’t think you have much of an argument that diesels have been ruined by technology.

I’ve owned a ‘94 GM 6.5, 96 Ford 7.3, 02 Cummins, 07 Dmax, 06 Ford 6.0, 11 Ford 6.7 and currently have a 20 Ford 6.7 and you couldn’t give me one of the previous trucks vs me buying my 2020.

The newer diesels walk all over the old ones, reliability, power, mileage, all of it. The only difference is IF a new one has issues, it is stupid expensive to fix, but for as far as the diesel doing diesel things, the newer ones will school the old ones all day long. Every single one of those trucks outside of the 6.7’s had major repairs by 150k whether it be transmissions, injection pumps, injectors, glow plugs, turbos, oil coolers, etc. Knock on wood with 300k on the 6.7 platforms I’ve done nothing but maintenance, they’ll pull a house down and will get 21mpg empty on the highway and 10 with a 13k 5th wheel.

I've owned my '90 Cummins D250 since '98. Bought it for $6,000 when it had 72,000 miles on the odometer. I've towed countless loaded car trailers with it, and hauled enough scrap metal with it to pay for the cost of the truck, including one load that had me crossing the scales at 11,000 pounds (not smart, but whatever). I've gotten as high as 22 mpg on the highway with it, and this is with a 3-spd 727 TorqueFlite. Other than consumables, the only major repair that I have ever done was an injector pump rebuild at 220,000 miles. All told, in my 28 years of ownership, I might be in the truck $12,000, and that includes the price of the truck. It now has 425,000 miles on it. I can quite honestly say that I would not trade that old rig straight across for a brand-new diesel pickup of any brand. I wish the people in my life were as reliable as that damned ol' Dodge. Just saying...
 
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I've owned my '90 Cummins D250 since '98. Bought it for $6,000 when it had 72,000 miles on the odometer. I've towed countless loaded car trailers with it, and hauled enough scrap metal with it to pay for the cost of the truck, including one load that had me crossing the scales at 11,000 pounds (not smart, but whatever). I've gotten as high as 22 mpg on the highway it, and this is with a 3-spd 727 TorqueFlite. Other than consumables, the only major repair that I have ever done was an injector pump rebuild at 220,000 miles. All told, in my 28 years of ownership, I might be in the truck $12,000, and that includes the price of the truck. It now has 425,000 miles on it. And I can quite honestly say that I would not trade that old rig straight across for a brand-new diesel pickup of any brand. I wish the people in my life were as reliable as that damned ol' Dodge. Just saying...

I can appreciate that, and that’s awesome that it works for your needs.
 
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I have always been a diesel proponent and enthusiast. But most of diesel's advantages have been engineered out and turned into disadvantages. Hell, they even have engineered out that wonderful diesel sound. Something else that has been ruined by technology.

If you're ever missing that wonderful diesel sound just pick up one of these and give it a shake.

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If you're ever missing that wonderful diesel sound just pick up one of these and give it a shake.

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Years ago, I had a friend make me up some bumper stickers to sell at a local swap meet. One was "Real Trucks Don't Have Cup Holders", and the other was "Real Trucks Rattle". Sold out of both. ;)
 
The cost and emissions on the newer ones is out of hand, but I don’t think you have much of an argument that diesels have been ruined by technology.

I’ve owned a ‘94 GM 6.5, 96 Ford 7.3, 02 Cummins, 07 Dmax, 06 Ford 6.0, 11 Ford 6.7 and currently have a 20 Ford 6.7 and you couldn’t give me one of the previous trucks vs me buying my 2020.

The newer diesels walk all over the old ones, reliability, power, mileage, all of it. The only difference is IF a new one has issues, it is stupid expensive to fix, but for as far as the diesel doing diesel things, the newer ones will school the old ones all day long. Every single one of those trucks outside of the 6.7’s had major repairs by 150k whether it be transmissions, injection pumps, injectors, glow plugs, turbos, oil coolers, etc. Knock on wood with 300k on the 6.7 platforms I’ve done nothing but maintenance, they’ll pull a house down and will get 21mpg empty on the highway and 10 with a 13k 5th wheel.

I'm not suggesting that the newer ones aren't "better" from a power standpoint - but I don't want to deal with the bullshit tech. My old skool MBZ typically gets 350-400K before needing a valve job (at the least), I don't think there's many new ones that will do that, and if they do, it'll still cost an obscene amount of money to rebuild/repair. Old diesels just flat last longer - but "old" to you, and "old" to me are probably two different things. No old skool diesel I'm aware of needed repairs by 150K unless it was one of the many GM disasters. A 12 valve Dodge Cummins is pretty hard to beat.
 
Plenty of people deleting them right off the lot now. We'll see if it makes much difference.

Are the regulations easing up?

There was a number of years there where everybody on the forums wouldn't even talk about deletes because the "government was watching" and they were afraid to get fined.

I am all for deletes--I deleted the '12 cummins I had and it was a whole new truck afterwards--tons of power, great mileage, no more "regen" cycles, very little to no blow-by. I had a very mild set of tunes from Draconian Diesel (IIRC). On average I'd say it was 19 mpg deleted, vs the 15mpg when it had the dpf system.
 
Are the regulations easing up?

There was a number of years there where everybody on the forums wouldn't even talk about deletes because the "government was watching" and they were afraid to get fined.

I am all for deletes--I deleted the '12 cummins I had and it was a whole new truck afterwards--tons of power, great mileage, no more "regen" cycles, very little to no blow-by. I had a very mild set of tunes from Draconian Diesel (IIRC). On average I'd say it was 19 mpg deleted, vs the 15mpg when it had the dpf system.

I think enforcement has eased a bit but the laws haven't really changed.

I follow a forum that many of the people have put their trucks on weight losses.

As long as mine is under warranty I see no reason to mess with it.
 
I had been wanting to get this Dewalt sealed head 3/8” - 1/2” ratchet for a while but didn’t want to pay the price they were asking. Someone at work reminded me about this program they have were basically if you do good things, they give you what is called “Bravo Points”. I had completely forgot about it. Looked up my account and I had a bunch of points in there. Also found you can get Amazon gift cards with them. I ended up doing that and only paying just over $100 myself and my employer paid the rest. 🙂

It was a tool only purchase. Swappable 3/8 and 1/2 inch anvils. I already have a bunch of batteries.

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I think enforcement has eased a bit but the laws haven't really changed.

I follow a forum that many of the people have put their trucks on weight losses.

As long as mine is under warranty I see no reason to mess with it.

My dad had a 2012 F350 with somewhere around 180k miles. It was starting to have all sorts of problems. The local dealership mechanic said he could get all the parts from Canada to delete it as long as my dad said it was for "offroad only". My dad hem'd and haw'd about it for a week or so. I tried to convince him to get the parts and we'd put them on ourselves but in the end he traded it in on a '23 silverado 2500.
 
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My dad had a 2012 F350 with somewhere around 180k miles. It was starting to have all sorts of problems. The local dealership mechanic said he could get all the parts from Canada to delete it as long as my dad said it was for "offroad only". My dad hem'd and haw'd about it for a week or so. I tried to convince him to get the parts and we'd put them on ourselves but in the end he traded it in on a '23 silverado 2500.

Yeah, pretty much all the stuff is coming from Canada to convert them. The Canadian's make pretty good videos on how to do it.
 
I think enforcement has eased a bit but the laws haven't really changed.

I follow a forum that many of the people have put their trucks on weight losses.

As long as mine is under warranty I see no reason to mess with it.

Thats the way I am understanding it. I do know they changed the programming on big trucks so they will run without DEF or with DEF/DPF problems for a longer period of time. So the company can get it to one of their shops
 
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