OBA tank vs no tank: How long does it take to fill your tires?

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How long does it take to fill your tires? Does an air tank matter?
 
Didn't we JUST have another thread on this subject?
I had to copy and paste the URL into an incognito tab just to make sure JMT wasn't trolling here as well, he blocked me for a similar discussion where I told him to shut it about similar threads, there will be more so shut it.
 
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I had to copy and paste the URL into an incognito tab just to make sure JMT wasn't trolling here as well, he blocked me for a similar discussion where I told him to shut it about similar threads, there will be more so shut it.
He blocked you, too? 😂
 
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Didn't we JUST have another thread on this subject?
I haven’t seen real numbers and am curious. I also can flip a valve to remove the tank in my setup. So I might as well test it.

My guess is the tank saves 10 seconds.
 
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If I can sneak out of my room this weekend Ill time mine. Id guess somewhere around 5-7 min
 
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I’ll time both ways this weekend.
There is a claim that running a 2 gallon tank for your onboard air system shortens the fill time for the tires on a rig by 4 minutes. That needs to be figured out.

The basics are simple. Each time a compressor piston completes a stroke, it produces a very specific volume of air. That can not be disputed. However many strokes it takes to inflate a tire from a given PSI to another given PSI takes X number. Whether those strokes go into temporary storage or into a tire does not and can not change that number.

The amount of time saved by running a temporary storage tank is exactly the amount of time that it takes for the compressor to turn on after you start inflating the tire. There is no 2 gallon air tank on the planet that holds 1 minute of inflation time into a tire that can be filled with an onboard air system at sub 200 psi. It just doesn't work that way.
 
What is the volume of a 35" tire on a 15" rim?

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https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-calc...share=046ff39d&srid=YooY&target_type=question
 
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The basics are simple. Each time a compressor piston completes a stroke, it produces a very specific volume of air.
Nope. High side pressure changes the volume that leaves the chamber.

Edit: overall I agree with post #11 so it don't matter either way for what it's worth
 
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There is a claim that running a 2 gallon tank for your onboard air system shortens the fill time for the tires on a rig by 4 minutes. That needs to be figured out.

The basics are simple. Each time a compressor piston completes a stroke, it produces a very specific volume of air. That can not be disputed. However many strokes it takes to inflate a tire from a given PSI to another given PSI takes X number. Whether those strokes go into temporary storage or into a tire does not and can not change that number.

The amount of time saved by running a temporary storage tank is exactly the amount of time that it takes for the compressor to turn on after you start inflating the tire. There is no 2 gallon air tank on the planet that holds 1 minute of inflation time into a tire that can be filled with an onboard air system at sub 200 psi. It just doesn't work that way.
Something is not correct. A piston stroke does not give a specific amount of air (CFM?) on any air compressor, it varies considerably according to psi it is up against. The viair units I am currently using put out 3.53cfm@0psi and choke to 1.90cfm@100psi and down to 0.85@200psi

The lower end of a tire fill is faster due to less resistance via PSI. As a tire reaches it's desired PSI, the rate of fill is slower. That is why the stored air is used in pneumatic solutions. Not many run tankless. It is not efficient. I realize our OBA systems hardly qualify for an engineer, but it still falls under the laws of pneumatics.
 
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