I thought I recalled my MTRs hitting the body at full stuff. Same with Shawns.
Only because our axles are pushed too far back. We all trimmed the back of the the wheel opening. The top clears.
I thought I recalled my MTRs hitting the body at full stuff. Same with Shawns.
Correctly at a 50/50, yes. But without cutting the body, your limiting the uptravel. Perhaps I am missing somethingSo your belief is that there is no additional uptravel to be gained by outboarding shocks correctly at 4" of lift height?
But in this case, with both jeeps staying the same, you need to bump for that interference. Goes back to not utilizing the full 12" of travel.Only because our axles are pushed too far back. We all trimmed the back of the the wheel opening. The top clears.
But in this case, with both jeeps staying the same, you need to bump for that interference. Goes back to not utilizing the full 12" of travel.
Correctly at a 50/50, yes. But without cutting the body, your limiting the uptravel. Perhaps I am missing something![]()
SawzallI thought I recalled my MTRs hitting the body at full stuff. Same with Shawns.
Yes the outboard TJ is going to out perform the non outboard TJ.I'm trying to figure something out about outboard shocks.
From what I've read, the primary reason to switch to an outboard shock mount is so that you can run a good shock with a tune.
So lets take two TJs with an identical setup, Savvy mid arm, 35s, etc.
Both TJs are the same but one has outboard Fox shocks and the other just has shocks that bolt in the stock location.
Is the outboard shock TJ going to perform better in terms of articulation and the amount of up travel and down travel?
I am just trying to figure out if there is a benefit to outboarding other than just running better shocks. You know, like better suspension articulation and such.
Sorry if I am making this confusing, just trying to understand.
You're right, outboarding is fucking stupid and no one should ever do it.But in this case, with both jeeps staying the same, you need to bump for that interference. Goes back to not utilizing the full 12" of travel.
My question is based off my TJ and how it is setup. With 3" of lift, 0.5" BL, all else being stock configuration and a typical aftermarket adjustable rear TB, SYE, and properly adjusted pinion angle, 2" of bump stop extension, my tires are not the limiter, but my TB hits the rear cross member in two places at full bump. The angled TB relocation bracket just misses the tub. The lower arms are shortened 1/4" shorter than a stock lower arm, which puts the jounce bumper nice and centered to the lower perch pad at full bump. So, to get more up, you'd have to increase the BL, but you still have TB interference with the cross member. Moving the axle forward more is not a viable option, so you try to bend the TB in such a way that you can get that extra inch, but not bend it in such a way that you now have interference with the exhaust wrap over the axle, or the the upper arms hitting the TB. My rear shock ride height is at 19". I'm running a 8ish" travel shock in the stock locations and get roughly 4" of up, 4" of down.I'm sure there is something you're pointing out but not quite sure what you mean. I outboarded lots of shocks before the mid arm came along. Be some more specific please.
Which rear track bar?My question is based off my TJ and how it is setup. With 3" of lift, 0.5" BL, all else being stock configuration and a typical aftermarket adjustable rear TB, SYE, and properly adjusted pinion angle, 2" of bump stop extension, my tires are not the limiter, but my TB hits the rear cross member in two places at full bump. The angled TB relocation bracket just misses the tub. The lower arms are shortened 1/4" shorter than a stock lower arm, which puts the jounce bumper nice and centered to the lower perch pad at full bump. So, to get more up, you'd have to increase the BL, but you still have TB interference with the cross member. Moving the axle forward more is not a viable option, so you try to bend the TB in such a way that you can get that extra inch, but not bend it in such a way that you now have interference with the exhaust wrap over the axle, or the the upper arms hitting the TB. My rear shock ride height is at 19". I'm running a 8ish" travel shock in the stock locations and get roughly 4" of up, 4" of down.
So, with these parameters explained, if we add another inch of lift with 4" springs, add 3/4" more BL with an 1.25 BL, we now can get 5.75" of up, but not without doing some shenanigans with the TB to get it to clear the rear cross member that ain't gonna happen. So, we can outboard, run a 12" shock, but I'd like to know exactly what needs done with the TB to make that happen.
Aren't they all basically bent in the same configuration?Which rear track bar?
NoAren't they all basically bent in the same configuration?
So, then let's pose the question. Which TB gives the TJ more forward clearance?
Ask Blaine how often he cuts into the crossmember with a Currie track bar.So, then let's pose the question. Which TB gives the TJ more forward clearance?
That is pretty much the response I was expecting from you. It actually is helpful though. Guess there's more than one reason why the Currie bar is 3 times the price of most others.Ask Blaine how often he cuts into the crossmember with a Currie track bar.
So, then let's pose the question. Which TB gives the TJ more forward clearance?
That is pretty much the response I was expecting from you. It actually is helpful though. Guess there's more than one reason why the Currie bar is 3 times the price of most others.
I'd ask Blaine but I think I've spent all my "brah" coupons and am now on the black list.![]()
I do know that I haven't seen a Metalcloak rear track bar that didn't interfere with the crossmember. But they are also a down travel focused company.![]()
Yet another response I totally expected from you, lol! Also helpful. See, we're starting to narrow it down. It's like pulling teeth!
I believe Jeremy was fighting this with the JKS option, but I also think he was trying to keep as much wheel base as possible, so his sacrifice for doing that was to cut the cross member. The Currie bar must have magical properties!