What is the best winch for my Jeep Wrangler TJ?

Are there any other good winch kits out there that are cheaper but still good? Or is it worth it to pay for one of the name brands? This one looks decent but might be worth it to spend a little more for better quality stuff
That one would be just fine. I prefer the TRE stuff though as @Garza is a forum member and the synthetic stuff is really good.
 
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Are there any other good winch kits out there that are cheaper but still good? Or is it worth it to pay for one of the name brands? This one looks decent but might be worth it to spend a little more for better quality stuff

I wouldn't bother with winch kits. Depending on your setup, you really only need a strap and possibly a soft shackle. The kits are expensive for what you get. My winch gear only includes a couple soft shackles, a tree saver, a strap, and a snatch block. You could get away with a lot less depending on your uses.
 
My job may help offsetting the cost of a Warn winch in a few months. They give cash for time spent(10 years).

With where we wheel @Chris , How often have you found the need for one ? I ask as it's a chunk of change that could be spent on other needed upgrades.

Just another excuse to pimp my bumper.
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My job may help offsetting the cost of a Warn winch in a few months. They give cash for time spent(10 years).

With where we wheel @Chris , How often have you found the need for one ? I ask as it's a chunk of change that could be spent on other needed upgrades.

Just another excuse to pimp my bumper.
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I haven’t had to use it yet, but at the same time I suspect I’ll need to in the future, especially as the trails get more difficult.
 
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You don't need a winch, until you do. And that is the precise moment you'll wish you'd spent the money on a good one.
Yep. That's why I got one. Frankly, the chances of my needing it are slim to none, but the peace of mind of having it makes it worth it. I got a well used Warn - had to go through it, blah, blah - but worth it. I tend to buy "better grade" equipment used, and make repairs as needed rather than buying "new but cheap" stuff. B, b, bu, bu, but it has a warranty! That's nice, but if you think you'll need the warranty, you probably should buy something better - never mind that said warranty will be expired by the time you use the winch the first time, much less break it.

This philosophy is why I drive a 36 year old car. Buy something good, buy it ONCE, maintain it well, and repair it when it breaks. Cheaper in the long run and more reliable too. YMMV and all that.
 
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My job may help offsetting the cost of a Warn winch in a few months. They give cash for time spent(10 years).

With where we wheel @Chris , How often have you found the need for one ? I ask as it's a chunk of change that could be spent on other needed upgrades.

Just another excuse to pimp my bumper.
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Whether you need a winch or not depends on what terrain you wheel in and do you go by yourself or with others. For example if you play in the dunes in a group then waffles, good recovery points and a Bubba Rope would be the way to go. Come up here to AK and a winch needs to be one of the first things you do. Everything else is in between. Wheeling with a group can allow you to not rush out and buy a winch, but eventually you could become "that guy" if the terrain you tackle requires a fair amount of winching.

One thing I will say about winches, they should be a one time investment. So buy once, cry once applies here. Also make sure that you are putting enough winch on for what you may be doing in the future as well. While Chris's recommendation of the M8000 is a very good one, in some areas like northern Canada and AK you will want to step up some in pulling power. DC electric winches are not the most efficient machines and one thing a lot of folks do not realize is that an 8k winch only pulls at full pull when are down to the first layer on the drum. If you only are pulling 25 feet off of a drum with 100 feet on it you will be lucky if you get 3k of pull out of your 8k winch. This is when a snatch block becomes your friend. Yes it can double the line pull (not really but for field math purposes we will run with it) but it allows you to get more line off the drum to get more power from the winch.
 
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You don't need a winch, until you do. And that is the precise moment you'll wish you'd spent the money on a good one.
This should be etched in stone. First real use of mine was in a situation where I’d have been royally fucked had I not had it or it not worked.

I’ve used it several times now for myself and for others.

A winch is an early must.
 
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I like the buy once cry once. As I'll be subsidized by my job.
If more took that approach to a lot of things in life we would have a lot less garbage in the landfill. I understand for a lot of people a winch is something they never want to use and that they can be expensive. Heck a new m8274 is $2400 now the same as buying 7 Harbor freight 9k. But a winch is a tool and just like buying tools from the tool truck they will last a lifetime if taken care of. All to often I hear stories of brand "W" winches not working but my cheap brand "S" saved the day. Only if you dig a little deeper you find out that the "W" winch was installed five years prior and never had the remote plugged in since then. Electrical parts do not like not being used so that needs to be part of the routine of getting ready for a run. Plug that remote in, pull that line off the drum and power it back in. It probably needed straightend up from the last time it was used anyway.
 
Any tips for finding good used equipment? I might try and do the same thing with finding a good used winch since I would prefer to not spend $600 for a new warn one. What sites do you use, facebook marketplace?
 
Any tips for finding good used equipment? I might try and do the same thing with finding a good used winch since I would prefer to not spend $600 for a new warn one. What sites do you use, facebook marketplace?
Craigslist of course and look for local for sale pages on FB.
 
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Any tips for finding good used equipment? I might try and do the same thing with finding a good used winch since I would prefer to not spend $600 for a new warn one. What sites do you use, facebook marketplace?
I stay off of facebook - but that's me. I found mine on craigslist or offerup, I don't remember which.
 
I've found a NIB M8000 for a fair price, but I've read that the M8000 is not a sealed winch. In TN we get a lot of rain and high humidity. On top of that, much of my off-roading includes water crossings and plenty of mud.

Should I be looking for an IP67/68 sealed winch instead of M8000? I'm willing to pay for performance when it comes to winches, but I also don't want to overspend for things I don't need.
 
I've found a NIB M8000 for a fair price, but I've read that the M8000 is not a sealed winch. In TN we get a lot of rain and high humidity. On top of that, much of my off-roading includes water crossings and plenty of mud.

Should I be looking for an IP67/68 sealed winch instead of M8000? I'm willing to pay for performance when it comes to winches, but I also don't want to overspend for things I don't need.
Might want to post this as a new thread. It’s going to get lost in here and not get very many responses.
 
I've found a NIB M8000 for a fair price, but I've read that the M8000 is not a sealed winch. In TN we get a lot of rain and high humidity. On top of that, much of my off-roading includes water crossings and plenty of mud.

Should I be looking for an IP67/68 sealed winch instead of M8000? I'm willing to pay for performance when it comes to winches, but I also don't want to overspend for things I don't need.
The M8000 has been used for years in all sorts of inclimate conditions. Unless you are doing a lot of submersion with your winch it will be just fine and even if you do regular maintenance will keep things running.
 
This question comes up all the time, seriously. That being said, it was time to make this an official "FAQ".

We're constantly seeing people post topics about which winch they should get. First and foremost, let me say that when it comes to winches, Warn is the undisputed king. They've been around longer than anyone else, most of their winches are made in the USA, they have a fantastic warranty, great customer service, etc. You won't find a brand out there that has the stellar reputation that Warn winches do.

You'll find a lot of Warn winches on vehicles that have been in use for over 20+ years and still going strong. Most of these winches see extreme climates (salty air, rust, extreme heat) and daily use, but still continue to function without a hitch.

What is the best Warn winch for my Jeep Wrangler TJ?
I have no problem sticking to my claim that the Warn M8000-S (synthetic version) is the best winch you can get for your TJ, hands down. Yes, Warn makes higher end winches out there with higher tow ratings, but you don't need those for a small vehicle like the TJ. In addition to that, while there are higher end (and more expensive) Warn winches, the M8000 happens to be the most popular choice for Jeep Wranglers, and therefore is the most tried and tested.

Find any Jeep Wrangler owner out there, and I'd be willing to bet there's a high probability that the winch they are running is a Warn M8000 and absolutely love it.

The Warn VR8 is made in China, but being that it carries the Warn name, you can be sure that it is backed up by Warn's fantastic customer service and support. That being said, if a Warn M8000 isn't in the cards, the Warn VR8 is a great option.


Are there other, more affordable options?
Of course. Other extremely popular options are as follows:
The one thing all of these lower price point winches have in common is that they're made in China. That's not to say they are garbage, because I'm sure that they'll get the job done. My issue comes with the fact that no one can personally attest for the quality control of these Chinese winches. In addition to that, many of these winches only get used once in a blue moon. Sure, that's enough to say your winch works, but unless you use your winch on a daily basis (like a lot of guys do with these Warn winches), then I don't trust it.

For me personally, it's worth spending the extra money to get something as tried and tested as the Warn M8000. I'm not trying to tell anyone how to spend their money, I'm simply trying to explain why it is that Warn can charge more than some of these lower end Chinese companies. I'm also saying that there is no doubt that these cheap winches will work. The question is, will they work when you need them to? You know, after hundreds or thousands of uses, exposure to extreme weather, etc.

It's something to think about, that's all!


What weight rating should my winch be?
The general rule of thumb is that whatever winch you purchase should be able to pull around two times the weight of the vehicle. It doesn't matter if it's slightly under or slightly over, as long as it's close enough. That being said, for our Jeep Wrangler TJs, 8000 lbs. is what most people run, and what I suggest as well. Anything over 8000 lbs. is fine, it's just not necessary by any means.


Synthetic Line vs. Steel Line
The following quote was taken from Blaine, one of the most knowledgable guys out there when it comes to our TJs and off-roading in general.

"Both lines store energy when stretched and that energy is released when the line parts under load. The difference is the weight and the simple way to understand it is you and your buddy each grab a 4 foot long piece of synthetic and the same in steel. Stand about 4 feet apart and take turns whipping each other and see who can inflict the most damage. I guarantee you the guy getting hit with the steel cable will run first.

The advantages of synthetic outweigh every aspect of steel except cost. We wheel some waterfalls in JV that you need a safety tether on. The ability to stand at the bottom of a 10 foot tall waterfall, unspool 20 feet of line and hand toss the whole mess up to the top is priceless.

The ability to spool on a same diameter line that is well over double the breaking strength of the same size steel at 1/5 the weight has some excellent value.

The ability to recombine and repair a broken or damaged line in the field with a simple buried tail splice is not to be sneezed at.

The extra strength alone is enough for me to switch even if it means I have to be just a tiny bit more aware of my rigging practices.

As for the maintenance of steel cable, it is most assuredly not maintenance free. If you do a bit of research, you'll discover that it needs to be cleaned, oiled, inspected for kinks, flat spots, bird's nesting, broken wires, and replaced if any evidence of those exist. The main reason folks think it is maintenance free is because they don't do any, not because it isn't required.

Synthetic isn't for everyone, but those of us who have been using it for a long time, wish it was. I switched in 2000 and at no point have I ever considered going back to steel for any reason."


In conclusion, it's safe to say that the majority of us are switching to synthetic these days. While steel winch line has been in use longer than synthetic, the benefits of synthetic far outweigh that of steel. Remember though, if you purchase a winch with steel line, you can always purchase a synthetic line down the road. In other words, you don't need a whole new winch to run synthetic line, it's nothing more than changing out the line from steel to synthetic.


Conclusion
Buy what you can afford, but if you want something that has been tried and tested for decades, the Warn M8000 as the pinnacle of winches for our Jeep Wrangler TJs. If you can afford it... buy it!
Do you have a Amazon link for that synthetic winch for a TJ?