What should I expect for shop price on SYE and Double Cardon shaft. Parts and labor. I want them to get the parts because I don't want to screw up measuring the prop shaft lenth. Also do I only need to do the rear shaft?
Ok, I've got all Core Teir 4 adjustbles. So at least I'm good there. There is a tire shop here in Hot Springs that says they will probably do it but I am a bit sceptical having a tire shop do that kind of work. No jeep shops here. But they say they have a jeep guy that works on jeep stuff for them. Cautiously inquiring with them. They want me to bring them the jeep to get clearer answers.The parts will be around $500-$600 give or take. The labor should be several hours, so maybe $300-$400 (I'd always respect to pay more).
You only need to do the rear driveshaft, but you WILL need upper adjustable rear control arms at a minimum, which will obviously add to the cost and labor.
Trust me when I say this is something you can do yourself if you have basic tools and a bit of mechanical ability. The sye can be while still in the jeep with basic hand tools. The only special tool you will need is a set of snap ring pliers.What should I expect for shop price on SYE and Double Cardon shaft. Parts and labor. I want them to get the parts because I don't want to screw up measuring the prop shaft lenth. Also do I only need to do the rear shaft?
They want me to bring them the jeep to get clearer answers.
Ya I think mine does. I'll look.A good transmission shop should be up to the task. I pulled my TC out myself and took it to a local Mom/Pop transmission shop. $300 labor and I supplied the AA SYE, a new chain, shop supplied new bearings/seals for the tc.
If your TC has a harmonic balancer on the output shaft, it will need to be pressed off using three 6mm cap screws. The balancer has three threaded holes to accomplish this. Not all TJ's have this harmonic balancer, so you'll have to look.
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Why the uppers and not the lowers?The parts will be around $500-$600 give or take. The labor should be several hours, so maybe $300-$400 (I'd always respect to pay more).
You only need to do the rear driveshaft, but you WILL need upper adjustable rear control arms at a minimum, which will obviously add to the cost and labor.
Snap ring pliers-Trust me when I say this is something you can do yourself if you have basic tools and a bit of mechanical ability. The sye can be while still in the jeep with basic hand tools. The only special tool you will need is a set of snap ring pliers.
You should be able to find endless threads / information detailing the exact installation. As far as the control arms go you would pull them out one by one setting them to the exact length of the current arms. The rear upper, or lower, will need to be adjusted a bit to get the pinion angle in line with the DS. (a digital angle finder works really well. 2 work even better)
Worst case you could have the shop do the final adjustment but I doubt a tire shop would do a good job.
You will only need a rear shaft.
looks like the cost is just under $600 http://www.4xshaft.com/
Call Tom woods and they would be more then willing to talk to you about the sye and walk you through the measurements. I have spoken with them many times and they are very knowledgeable and easy to talk to.
Why the uppers and not the lowers?
Recommending uppers is a carryover from the bullshit that uppers set pinion angle and lowers set wheelbase. Due to the very simple fact that the uppers are above axle tube centerline and lowers are below axle tube centerline, it is not possible to adjust either the upper or lower arms without changing BOTH wheel base and pinion angle.Most recommend the adjustable uppers at minimum (to folks who don't want to pay for an entire set of adjustable arms). Is that wrong? Are the lowers an absolute requirement?
Recommending uppers is a carryover from the bullshit that uppers set pinion angle and lowers set wheelbase. Due to the very simple fact that the uppers are above axle tube centerline and lowers are below axle tube centerline, it is not possible to adjust either the upper or lower arms without changing BOTH wheel base and pinion angle.
If you want to set it up correctly and keep the tire and axle where they belong or have to be depending on the rig, you would typically need to pull the axle back forward after raising the pinion because you pushed it back when you raised the pinion.
It is unfortunate that the accepted bastardization of search terms has diluted the accuracy to the point that when one types in lock ring, they get snap ring and snap ring searches bring up lock ring pliers. The distinction is important if you want to get the job done.
Recommending uppers is a carryover from the bullshit that uppers set pinion angle and lowers set wheelbase. Due to the very simple fact that the uppers are above axle tube centerline and lowers are below axle tube centerline, it is not possible to adjust either the upper or lower arms without changing BOTH wheel base and pinion angle.
If you want to set it up correctly and keep the tire and axle where they belong or have to be depending on the rig, you would typically need to pull the axle back forward after raising the pinion because you pushed it back when you raised the pinion.