Yep, if you paid attention, practically this entire thread has been centric to keeping the use of synthetic in context and that is harder to do than I imagined.I saw logging mentioned here as a argument for steel and thought I’d give my input. I’ve been logging for many years - and unless you plan on using 3” OD and replacing it every 5 years on your winch then you can’t really compare them. Logging operations have a different application than us and they can’t be compared. Synthetic is the way to go on jeeps.