Where should I mount my hi-lift jack?

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We're not being overly cautious, many of us here me included have just seen too many stupid dangerous situations some tried to use their Hi-Lifts in. RARELY is a Hi-Lift the best tool for the job or even appropriate. That's why I stopped carrying mine in 2003. It's certainly not needed for tire changing duties no matter how high the suspension lift is for 35's or even 37's in a pinch.

In my strictly personal opinion 99.99999% of the Hi-Lifts carried externally by Jeep owners are nothing but display pieces saying 'look at me I are a offroader' when they don't know enough to know why it's very seldom the best or most appropriate tool.

This shows the "last straw" for me on Hi-Lift use after I broke a front axle shaft on Sledgehammer in Johnson Valley CA in 2003. I stupidly raised my TJ with my Hi-Lift from the side to pull the broken axle shaft out instead of just jacking the front axle up as everyone around me was advising me to do. I was shocked how far the Hi-Lift had teetered over while I was working on it. It had to be placed on top of that rock due to the trail being nothing but rocks there. At least I placed my tire underneath in case it did fall off. It was after this I stopped carrying my Hi-Lift.

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I was there that day....LOL.
 
yea, that's exactly what I said :rolleyes:

Looking at that pic I can see a far better placement for that jack where it wouldn't be wobbling on a basketball sized rock perched on top of much larger boulders but definitely the jacks fault

Nothing like a keyboard cowboy, from Texas no less, to tell people who drive exclusively in the rocks, how to drive in the rocks....
 
Nothing like a keyboard cowboy, from Texas no less, to tell people who drive exclusively in the rocks, how to drive in the rocks....

Looks like he finally seceded late last year.
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Now I remember, Jeff it has been a while! What were you driving that day? Any pics from that day?

I had my chili pepper red TJ back then. Unless that was the one and only day I drug my XJ all over the rocks...

If I recall didn't you break and axle then turn before you knew it was broken and blow the knuckle off when things bound up? That repair took some time if that was what I'm thinking happened.

I'm not sure if I have any from that exact day, but I did fine some pictures on an old site that Sergey maintains.
 
I had my chili pepper red TJ back then. Unless that was the one and only day I drug my XJ all over the rocks...

If I recall didn't you break and axle then turn before you knew it was broken and blow the knuckle off when things bound up? That repair took some time if that was what I'm thinking happened.

I'm not sure if I have any from that exact day, but I did fine some pictures on an old site that Sergey maintains.
Nope I stopped as soon as I heard the 'tink' of the break, not to mention I probably had 5-6 bystanders/spotters who also heard it screaming at me as soon as it happened lol. I'd love to see Sergey's old photos, he always had smile on his face! This is him from that fateful day way back in 2003 lol.

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Now I remember, Jeff it has been a while! What were you driving that day? Any pics from that day?

You know the first thing I think about when the conversation comes up about these jacks is how you have to absurdly lift the vehicle in order to clear the suspension droop- It makes a dangerous job much more dangerous.

But going beyond that I am old enough to remember when cars came with bumper jacks. They killed people. Cars don’t come with them anymore for that reason.

A lot of jeep owners are in love with an appearance of readiness. They think it signals to people masculinity and capability.

I can’t get over the extensive article about all that uses for them that a major jeep magazine published-It seemed like they were good for a number of things, like a side pull. But I don’t even think they recommended lifting the vehicle in the article with one due to liability.

It is sort of asking for it to use one.
 
You know the first thing I think about when the conversation comes up about these jacks is how you have to absurdly lift the vehicle in order to clear the suspension droop- It makes a dangerous job much more dangerous.

But going beyond that I am old enough to remember when cars came with bumper jacks. They killed people. Cars don’t come with them anymore for that reason.

A lot of jeep owners are in love with an appearance of readiness. They think it signals to people masculinity and capability.

I can’t get over the extensive article about all that uses for them that a major jeep magazine published-It seemed like they were good for a number of things, like a side pull. But I don’t even think they recommended lifting the vehicle in the article with one due to liability.

It is sort of asking for it to use one.

Eddie has a pretty good video on this

 
Maybe also because cars don't have bumpers anymore. :unsure:

Trucks do.

Even some plastic “bumpered“ cars had a notch.

There was a point in time we’re pretty much everybody knew somebody that had been killed or seriously injured trying to change a tire.

It was the scariest thing you ever did. The hi- lift is just a big version of the same thing.

Don’t get me wrong they are unbeatable for some tasks in life.
 
98.5% of the HiLifts i see on Jeeps have nowhere you could use them. And owners that couldn't use them properly even if they had bumpers and sliders you could catch with one.

If you have never been in a situation where it's the only tool for the job, it is hard to appreciate it.

And they are like a gun. Show it proper respect and it won't kill you 😃
 
Bumper jacks were definitely scary, and damn, I forgot all about them. I do remember that you really needed to pay attention while you were jacking up to keep it straight. I now carry a scissor jack from a lesson learned while wheeling a trail in my Gladiator I owned. On the particular trail I was on, it was the only jack that got under my axle and got it high enough for me to get my tire changed.
 
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My late dad's '54 Mercury fell sideways off its bumper jack while he was changing a tire 68 years ago. It was memorable for me because it scared the shit out me, I thought his leg was caught underneath it.
 
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You know the first thing I think about when the conversation comes up about these jacks is how you have to absurdly lift the vehicle in order to clear the suspension droop- It makes a dangerous job much more dangerous.

But going beyond that I am old enough to remember when cars came with bumper jacks. They killed people. Cars don’t come with them anymore for that reason.

A lot of jeep owners are in love with an appearance of readiness. They think it signals to people masculinity and capability.

I can’t get over the extensive article about all that uses for them that a major jeep magazine published-It seemed like they were good for a number of things, like a side pull. But I don’t even think they recommended lifting the vehicle in the article with one due to liability.

It is sort of asking for it to use one.

The only thing I used my hi-lift for in the 10 years it sat on my side yard was to mount tires on my beadlock wheels. They are not a tool for the trail. As Jerry found out - we all carried bottle jacks and a couple of small pieces of 2x6 and 4x4 wood. Lift the axle - not the tub. LOL
 
This subject has brought up another faint memory for me from the early 90's. My first jeep was a 82 Scrambler and I carried a hi-lift jack like I thought we were supposed to do. I believe it was my first trip over the Rubicon trail that I had to change a tire and using the hi-lift jack was pretty scary from what I remember.