Yukon Y.E.S. plan?

[sierradmax]

I've installed Revolution and Yukon gears. Always liked the way Revolution set up vs. Yukon but in an effort to support a local shop, they're now a Yukon rep and is suggesting their gears with the YES plan on their R&P's. A set of 5.13's are soon to be ordered.

The way I read into it is a plan that allows installers to throw them in quicker and not have to worry too much about patterns.

 

[Chris]

How is it you can install them and not worry much about the pattern?

 

[sierradmax]

I'd worry.. Some might have the " run it, it's covered under warranty" mentality.

 

[flyinfish]

I've installed Revolution and Yukon gears. Always liked the way Revolution set up vs. Yukon but in an effort to support a local shop, they're now a Yukon rep and is suggesting their gears with the YES plan on their R&P's. A set of 5.13's are soon to be ordered.

The way I read into it is a plan that allows installers to throw them in quicker and not have to worry too much about patterns.

That's a plan I'd pass on myself. If it's going to last, the pattern has to be right upon install.

 

[06lj]

"Yukon Gear & Axle shall not be liable for labour charges incurred in the replacement of the product." I'd stick with revolutions 10 year warranty that doesn't cost an extra $45.

 

[Chris]

"Yukon Gear & Axle shall not be liable for labour charges incurred in the replacement of the product." I'd stick with revolutions 10 year warranty that doesn't cost an extra $45.

I agree. This has bad idea written all over it.

 

[Lou]

With Yukon you "Might" get circle k gears. With Revolution you will get circle k gears.

 

[AndyG]

Crazy. Please. Just kill me.

 

[Hickey129]

I bought a set of gears from yukon and purchased the y.e.s. plan so after a few months I ended up grenading the ring gear and when I called about the warranty my understanding is you have to purchase new gears and send your old ones back then after they are inspected and found to be covered by the warranty
then you will be reimbursed but I never sent mine back I just assumed I would have to go through all of the hustle and bustle for them to tell me it was an install failure so in my personal situation I decided to cut my loss at that point

 

[Goatman]

'Set up quicker' and 'don't worry about engagement' sound like infomercial speak to me. There is no shortcuts to setting up a gearbox of any type. Not even Ujoints.

 

[MutantNinjaTJ]

I bought Yukon gears and paid for the YES plan, but there was a $150 rebate and the plan cost $50, still saved $100 on each set, and the shop that installed said they would deal with the return and the replacement labor would be free as well. This shop does there shit right the first time and have never replaced a set of Yukons on warranty yet. Mine have been humming along for 3 years and 20,0000 miles, but if they ever wear out for any reason the replacement is covered. So I think it was worth the $50 to me.

 

[AndyG]

It would really be interesting to see how things get handled...

I very well understand what's happening....

my company has given a lifetime warranty on tile shower installations as long as the customer owns the home... That sounds great...but what I know is if it is done correctly the chances of a failure are nil.

I'm not sure where Yukon is going with this.... As in the above post... If the job is done correctly you never need the warranty... At the same time the warranty may give someone peace of mind.

Over the last 3 years I've seen more than a few threads where a regear went south.

It seems what they may be saying is " choose us ... You are covered".

I don't know all the terms or claims of the warranty.... But it concerns me when a warranty is touted to be stronger than the technical aspects needed for the product to work.

This takes me a little bit back to mannington gold flooring... It was north of $30 a yard and basically had a one year no questions asked warranty... And the manufacturer miscalculated how much the material would shrink... It would move cabinets nearly... I can't even fathom what that product cost them.

That's a tangent .... I do know good warranty service buys marketshare.

 

[06lj]

I definitely agree that a warranty can help with decision making. What Yukon is doing has definitely swayed me to never consider their products. To charge a customer extra to warranty their product for defects is just asinine.

 

[AndyG]

I definitely agree that a warranty can help with decision making. What Yukon is doing has definitely swayed me to never consider their products. To charge a customer extra to warranty their product for defects is just asinine.

That's the rub with me...a large number of your warranties and service plans these days boil down to this... Give us more money... make us wealthier... And in the event something goes wrong we might like you and do the right thing.

I don't know the automotive industry as well as I know some others. . But I know companies like Currie tend to lean toward a formula something like this... Build it the best you can... hire great people and pay them good money to give your clients great service... And in return the market will gladly pay you more.

It is very powerful to take the risk out of a transaction... But I would ask if this scenario is possible...

You buy the gears and the warranty and a shop puts them in that just doesn't have the experience.... But they are jumping in to the business because now they feel like things are covered if they make a mistake... You have issues and the gears get made up but you're still stranded with the shop that doesn't have the technical prowess to set gears.

@Robb5589 would be great to hear from on this.

 

[freedom_in_4low]

If you have to pay for it, it's not a warranty, it's insurance. And if it doesn't make you whole (because labor is 60-80% of the cost), it's a crappy insurance policy.

Paying labor for a crap gear setter twice is still more expensive than paying a good one once.

 

[AndyG]

If you have to pay for it, it's not a warranty, it's insurance. And if it doesn't make you whole (because labor is 60-80% of the cost), it's a crappy insurance policy.

Paying labor for a crap gear setter twice is still more expensive than paying a good one once.

I really like that. There's only one thing better than a great warranty... A job so good you don't need one.

 

[sierradmax]

All interesting comments. Whats funny is I can buy a revolution master set for about $75 cheaper than a Yukon set without their YES plan. Add $90 for that and I could buy another revolution Ring and pinion for the difference if ever needed.

 

[hosejockey61]

All interesting comments. Whats funny is I can buy a revolution master set for about $75 cheaper than a Yukon set without their YES plan. Add $90 for that and I could buy another revolution Ring and pinion for the difference if ever needed.

Exactly.

 

[freedom_in_4low]

I wonder what percentage of gear failures happen due to a problem with the gears in spite of good setup. With the right equipment and procedures in place it shouldn't be hard to get defects down to the parts per million level.

I'm also curious how the gear industry works. Is circle K just cranking out gears to their own specifications regardless of whose box they end up in? Or are Revolution and Yukon and G2 etc providing specs of their own for Circle K to manufacture to?

How that's arranged makes the difference between being able to say Circle K is Circle K, vs saying the brand actually matters.

 

[sierradmax]

I agree. This has bad idea written all over it.

@Chris , Did I read somewhere that you can get discount pricing on Revolution?