No aluminum Savvy bumpers in near future

Confused about the bend radius comment. This is off their website claiming 6061-T6. You calling bullshit? Real question. I know the winch tray doesn't slide back as far. Are there other quality issues? I looked in other threads and it's always been blanket "Savvy is better" but haven't heard specifics

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It's just a way for you to spot bullshit, like Genright.

As far as bolt attachments, does the bumper in question bolt to the factory sway bar mount holes? Is the bottom lip structured in a way as to contact the front crossmember?
 
Confused about the bend radius comment. This is off their website claiming 6061-T6. You calling bullshit? Real question. I know the winch tray doesn't slide back as far. Are there other quality issues? I looked in other threads and it's always been blanket "Savvy is better" but haven't heard specifics

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UCF's bend radii look believable to be 6061. But it looks like the top deck doesn't go back as far, if that's a concern for you.

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Confused about the bend radius comment. This is off their website claiming 6061-T6. You calling bullshit? Real question. I know the winch tray doesn't slide back as far. Are there other quality issues? I looked in other threads and it's always been blanket "Savvy is better" but haven't heard specifics

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Yes, Genright's website has been wrong for years about the bumper being 6061-T6.
 
It's just a way for you to spot bullshit, like Genright.

As far as bolt attachments, does the bumper in question bolt to the factory sway bar mount holes? Is the bottom lip structured in a way as to contact the front crossmember?

They have two. The more expensive mounts back further and to sway bar holes. The 2nd, 46 inch (one I was looking at) sits forward like @freedom_in_4low just posted. I don't know enough to know what I'm looking for with the bottom lip
https://undercoverfab.com/jeep-tj-l...er.html#/36-fairlead_mount-add_fairlead_mount
https://undercoverfab.com/jeep-tj-l...jeep-wrangler-tj-lj.html#/34-winch_plate-none
 
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The tightest bend radius for 6061-t6 is 2x the material thickness, perpendicular to the grain to avoid cracking. Anything tighter than that isn't 6061-t6. And none of that addresses the other design details that very very few other bumpers have compared to Savvy.
UFC claims they are "...laser cut from 3/16" 6061-T6 aluminum plate and formed on a CNC press brake with large radius tooling. This forming process adds tremendous strength to the design. The seams are TIG welded inside and out."

Are you claiming to know otherwise? And what other design detail is UCF missing? Honest questions because fabricating a more than servicable stubby Jeep bumper isn't exactly rocket science.
 
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UCF's bend radii look believable to be 6061. But it looks like the top deck doesn't go back as far, if that's a concern for you.

Any reason I wouldn't' be able to use a different companies winch plate that sits further back?
 
UFC claims they are "...laser cut from 3/16" 6061-T6 aluminum plate and formed on a CNC press brake with large radius tooling. This forming process adds tremendous strength to the design. The seams are TIG welded inside and out."

Are you claiming to know otherwise? And what other design detail is UCF missing? Honest questions because fabricating a more than servicable stubby Jeep bumper isn't exactly rocket science.

Genright for sure is BS, at least one of the two UCFs is BS - you can tell by the various bends. If they weld on it they already compromise the treatment - so it may have been true until it wasn't anymore.

The other missing things include: a wraparound under the cross member to avoid peeling if you have to back off, a deeper deck, tying into the deeper holes (where the oem swaybar mounts).

Any reason I wouldn't' be able to use a different companies winch plate that sits further back?

Because the deck doesn't go as deep, where the winch plate mounts.
 
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UFC claims they are "...laser cut from 3/16" 6061-T6 aluminum plate and formed on a CNC press brake with large radius tooling. This forming process adds tremendous strength to the design. The seams are TIG welded inside and out."

Are you claiming to know otherwise? And what other design detail is UCF missing? Honest questions because fabricating a more than servicable stubby Jeep bumper isn't exactly rocket science.

I already addressed this and gave everyone the power to make that determination.
 
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Hahah selling unicorn poop or poopy salesman selling unicorns?

The thing that many people fail to realize is we don't really give a fuck what people buy. However we do like for correct information to be out there and available. What people do with it from there doesn't really matter, aside from denying some basic science (like the bend radius of 6061T6 that maintains the properties we know to matter).

I won't be running this bumper until I can source the hardcore upgrade to protect the corners since I slam the shit out of my bumper sometimes.
 
The thing that many people fail to realize is we don't really give a fuck what people buy.

That's not what the training manual says to say. Careful or I'm going to have to report you to the affiliate department.

aside from denying some basic science

Woah, woah, woah! Science doesn't exist! I don't know where you're coming up with this stuff from! Are you a racer or a trail rider? Because the bend radius depends on that.
 
The thing that many people fail to realize is we don't really give a fuck what people buy. However we do like for correct information to be out there and available. What people do with it from there doesn't really matter, aside from denying some basic science (like the bend radius of 6061T6 that maintains the properties we know to matter).

I won't be running this bumper until I can source the hardcore upgrade to protect the corners since I slam the shit out of my bumper sometimes.

So share what you know about UCF’s bend radii, don’t speculate “at least one of the two UCFs is BS - you can tell by the various bends.”



I won't be running this bumper until I can source the hardcore upgrade to protect the corners since I slam the shit out of my bumper sometimes.

Make some, you have the tools