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[BlueC]

As a PA resident, game/fish wardens don't have a reputation for helping people.

I doubt any fish and game wardens in the US are known for helping, or being liked. They're more or less just another alphabet agency full of state owned bureaucrats.

 

[BlueC]

Judge Sheller said the Pennsylvania legislature needs to address the drone issue because “everyone is playing catchup to science.”

So drones are also "science" now? If so, it sounds like this guy was just "following the science".

 

[Apparition]

I doubt any fish and game wardens in the US are known for helping, or being liked. They're more or less just another alphabet agency full of state owned bureaucrats.

In my experiences with them you are correct.

 

[freedom_in_4low]

Joshua Wingenroth of Downington, Pennsylvania was fined $1,500 last week for using a drone to locate a deer in a Pennsylvania nature preserve. According the Associated Press, Wingenroth thought he was tracking a downed deer for a client when he was cited for illegal drone use back in December. But the client turned out to be an undercover game warden, and the deer that Wingenroth located during the sting operation was alive and uninjured.

Wingenroth owns a deer recovery business and openly advertises his drone services to hunters who need help locating downed deer. Last year, local authorities informed the 35-year-old drone pilot that his business violated Pennsylvania’s game laws. He opted to continue anyway, telling them that his lawyer had a different interpretation of the law, the AP reports.

He was contacted by an undercover agent on Dec. 6, 2023 and asked to track a wounded deer in the Welsh Mountain Nature Preserve—a 940-acre parcel in southeastern Pennsylvania. He met the officer there, launched his drone, and used a thermal imaging feature to pinpoint a nearby whitetail.

He was shining that deer with the drone’s spotlight when another officer showed up and confiscated his equipment. The Pennsylvania Game Commission officer cited him for using prohibited electronics while hunting, violating regulations on recreational spotlighting, and disturbing wildlife.

Wingenroth’s verdict was handed down in Lancaster County by District Judge Raymond Sheller on Thursday, February 22. His case is significant because it’s the first time anyone has even been cited and tried for using a drone to recover a dead game animal in Pennsylvania, according to the AP. Though he’s technically accused of using the drone to “hunt” game, Wingenroth’s attorney Micheal Siddons said he wasn’t involved in any hunting activity at the time of his citation.

During the trial, Siddons argued that Pennsylvania’s game laws are “archaic” when it comes to the use of drones for recovering shot or dead game animals. The laws have been amended over time to address new and emerging technologies, he said, but they don’t address the use of drones in hunting scenarios. While delivering the sentence, Judge Sheller said the Pennsylvania legislature needs to address the drone issue because “everyone is playing catchup to science.”

At least one Pennsylvania legislator is working to do just that. State Senator Jared Coleman plans to introduce a bill in the coming months that would legalize the use of drones for recovering downed deer and other game animals. “We’re talking with lots of stake holders and we’re not getting a lot of push back,” Coleman recently told Go Erie News. “Do we want to allow hunters to use available technology to recover a deer that’s been shot that would otherwise would be wasted?”

Coleman is currently seeking co-sponsors for his bill. He told Go Erie that he has spoken with local hunters who would like to have the option to use drones for downed deer recovery. In a January memorandum, Coleman said that “the state of Ohio permits the use of drones in the recovery of downed game” while Pennsylvania is “taking a hostile view of the use of drones in game recovery. Siddons said he plans to appeal Wingenroth’s guilty verdict.

https://www.fieldandstream.com/hunting/man-fined-for-using-drone-to-recover-deer-to-appeal-verdict/

man there's a lot there.

First of all, what the game warden did was BS. He wasn't using the drone to hunt, he believed he was using it to track a dying animal. Game warden is crooked.

Second, I see nothing inherently wrong with using a drone to track a dying animal that will otherwise go to waste if it's not found.

However, I do disagree with using a drone to actually hunt, and I can understand why it would make sense to prohibit drone use for tracking a dying animal because the presence of drones for legitimate purposes would make it much more difficult to enforce the law against using drones to hunt. But if they're going to prohibit using a drone to track a dying animal, it needs to be clearly spelled out in the law and left open for being variably enforced based on the interpretation of each individual game warden.

 

[LukesfirstJeep]

I doubt any fish and game wardens in the US are known for helping, or being liked. They're more or less just another alphabet agency full of state owned bureaucrats.

I have a friend that ran into a helpful game warden in CO, during an elk hunt. After shooting an elk, and while dragging/hauling the body out of the woods, a game warden asked to see the tag. My friend was told, "you didn't fill this out correctly, let me show you how".

In PA, it would have been, "fill that out correctly, and here's a citation for your efforts".

 

[BlueC]

I have a friend that ran into a helpful game warden in CO, during an elk hunt. After shooting an elk, and while dragging/hauling the body out of the woods, a game warden asked to see the tag. My friend was told, "you didn't fill this out correctly, let me show you how".

In PA, it would have been, "fill that out correctly, and here's a citation for your efforts".

In my experience, and hearing from friends, it's about a 50/50 here. Some are ok, others are on a mission to be an asshole. Cops on the street seem to be the same.

 

[sab]

Some are ok, others are on a mission to be an asshole. Cops on the street seem to be the same.

Both of those (fish cops and people cops) have had major attitude changes over the decades I've been on this big ol' rock hurtling through space. Remember Andy Griffith? Best example of how a cop should be. Adapt behavior to the circumstances. However, our culture no longer allows that. We no longer have basic respect for others. People will simultaneously complain about someone using the wrong pronoun, while cutting in line at the grocery store. It's so bad that I find myself being drawn into that behavior occasionally. I have to remind myself to be nice. Sad.

I feel for cops and game wardens having to deal with people all day long who have an entitlement mindset. I certainly wouldn't want to do that day in and day out...

 

[Apparition]

Idaho delays execution of serial killer Thomas Eugene Creech after failed lethal injection attempts
Idaho on Wednesday delayed the execution of serial killer Thomas Eugene Creech, one of the longest-serving death row inmates in the U.S., after a failed attempt at lethal injection.

https://www.idahopress.com/news/sta...cle_efec842a-524a-5b4a-a93f-9a7fc769bfee.html

 

[BlueC]

I feel for cops and game wardens having to deal with people all day long who have an entitlement mindset. I certainly wouldn't want to do that day in and day out...

I wouldn't do that job, not for anything less than pro football money, but my feeling towards these guys is tarnished from previous personal experiences with LEOs, and from knowing a handful personally who I've heard things from directly.

 

[BlueC]

Idaho delays execution of serial killer Thomas Eugene Creech after failed lethal injection attempts
Idaho on Wednesday delayed the execution of serial killer Thomas Eugene Creech, one of the longest-serving death row inmates in the U.S., after a failed attempt at lethal injection.

https://www.idahopress.com/news/sta...cle_efec842a-524a-5b4a-a93f-9a7fc769bfee.html

"Idaho halts execution by lethal injection after 8 failed attempts to insert IV line... repeatedly failed to find a vein where they could establish an intravenous line to carry out the lethal injection."​

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How does that happen? Maybe they should just take him down to Walgreens and get a covid shot from pfizer. I'm here all week. ​

 

[freedom_in_4low]

"Idaho halts execution by lethal injection after 8 failed attempts to insert IV line... repeatedly failed to find a vein where they could establish an intravenous line to carry out the lethal injection."​

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How does that happen? Maybe they should just take him down to Walgreens and get a covid shot from pfizer. I'm here all week. ​

incompetence in the person responsible for setting the IV.

 

[BlueC]

incompetence in the person responsible for setting the IV.

8 times?

 

[Apparition]

8 times?

Intentional?

 

[freedom_in_4low]

8 times?

well, think of the applicant pool for that position. If someone is even halfway decent at placing an IV they're probably going to be working in a hospital.

Some people can be difficult. I end up almost passing out about half the time I get blood drawn because they put the needle in there and have to dig around with it for a couple minutes trying to get it to flow. I haven't had a lot of IV's but the last time I warned the nurse and she still struggled even after confidently assuring me she was skilled at it. I've been led to believe my experience isn't typical.

 

[BlueC]

well, think of the applicant pool for that position. If someone is even halfway decent at placing an IV they're probably going to be working in a hospital.

I assume that person is a RN, likely subcontracted through a local health care system, but I could be wrong.

Intentional?

That's what I'm thinking.

 

[Apparition]

I assume that person is a RN, likely subcontracted through a local health care system, but I could be wrong.



That's what I'm thinking.

Need to gas them with nitrogen. Be easier.

 

[InOmaha]

Albert Einstein College of Medicine in Bronx, N.Y. gets 1 billion dollar grant from professor making it tuition free going forward for all students


https://apnews.com/article/free-med...ein-new-york-c43d8184d704d3e40328c6f97d330adb

This is incredible. And will be wasted within a decade as sooo many apply and the admissions will dilute the applicants or take in too many.

It should have been set up as a pay foreward where each alum sponsers a student after graduation and mentors for 4 years.

I taught my share of masters engineering to kids out of college that didn't get engineering education in college. Too much testing, not enough problem solving.

 

[freedom_in_4low]

I assume that person is a RN, likely subcontracted through a local health care system, but I could be wrong.



That's what I'm thinking.

I could be wrong too. I was picturing a full time prison nurse that applied for the job knowing what it was with a line for "administering lethal injection" in the job description. I feel like that would most easily explain both the incompetence and intentionality angles but I have no idea how that stuff works.

Based on the people my wife (radiographer) works with, it seems like the majority of that field probably objects to capital punishment, so I can imagine an "activist" committing career suicide by intentionally screwing it up in an effort to effect "change".

 

[Apparition]

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Food/wendys-announces-uber-surge-pricing-model/story?id=107584986

Wendy’s announced it will launch new menu prices that will fluctuate depending on the time of day.

The country’s second-largest burger chain, which has 6,000 restaurant locations, said the change will begin next year

During the busy times, they can obviously increase profits then,” Brown said. “And also, some consumers will want to shift to the less busy times when demand is lower and prices are lower.”

Customers could pay $1 more for a sandwich like the Baconator during the lunch rush, for example.

https://people.com/burger-king-give...wendy-announces-dynamic-pricing-model-8601671

Burger King Is Giving Out Free Whoppers for 3 Days as Shade to Wendy’s ‘Dynamic Pricing’​

 

[Zorba]

https://people.com/burger-king-give...wendy-announces-dynamic-pricing-model-8601671

Burger King Is Giving Out Free Whoppers for 3 Days as Shade to Wendy’s ‘Dynamic Pricing’​

Smartphone only nonsense.