Oh, I could go into the garage and just start doing it, ignoring my wife and kids. But you know as well as I do that I would get hell for that. I did that once and didn't hear the end of it.
Adjustable control arm lengths for a 2.5" OME lift?
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Oh, I could go into the garage and just start doing it, ignoring my wife and kids. But you know as well as I do that I would get hell for that. I did that once and didn't hear the end of it.
The arms in the picture are double adjustable.
I didn't notice that for some reason until after I ordered them. I knew the rear uppers would be double adjustable. What an awesome design though. All the control arms from other manufacturers typically only include double adjustable uppers.
Props to Savvy for building them all to be double adjustable. I wonder if @mrblaine had anything to do with this design?
Since they are all double adjustable, it seems like you could set them all to stock length, replace oem/install Savvy one at a time until all 8 are installed, then go at it with a couple of wrenches to tweak any adjustments that need to be done. No?
Are you planning the control arm install before or after the body lift/skid plate install?
In my case I need to extend the front lowers and extend the rear uppers to get my pinion angles right I believe, but you will understand more what you need to do once you are knee deep in CA's and springs!
I probably would replace them with the Jeep on all 4, but I figure I’ve got to cycle the suspension and everything at the same time.
I think I’m going to do everything at once. Lift, body lift, MML, control arms, and skid plates.
I agree with @bobthetj03. Just replace the arms up front. If you do everything at once, and something is just flat not right, you won't necessarily know where to start to look for the issue, since all that had been done simultaneously. You could replace the arms with the TJ as it sits. Then drive it a bit before tackling all the rest. IMO, of course.
Of course, if you're paying someone else to do it, they have to get it all right before they're done...
Sounds about right. @David Kishpaugh had mentioned the lower arms being around 16.25" for a 2.5" lift.
Easier way to try and get that point across is you can NOT adjust pinion angle without changing wheelbase and you can NOT adjust wheelbase without changing the pinion angle. That and I would really like to bury my foot in the ass of the butthead that started that shit.
No wrenches are needed or used for the initial adjustment. They turn by hand, if they don't, you're doing it wrong.
Hypothetically, if you didn't own a tape measure, would you be able to install this kit? Whatever could you possibly use as a starting point if you didn't have a tape measure?
Curious to how all of this plays out. It sounds like you are confident that the lift will be level the first time. Just a suggestion, but I think I would put the lift on first, and get it sitting right, meaning you are not sure how or where to put the spacers in. Then drive it around, and let it adjust itself(settle down), then put the control arms in, and cycle the suspension once. If you do it all at once you will be adjusting and adjusting and aligning and aligning. Well in my mind anyway. Probably be less work as @glwood mentioned rather than do it all at once.
You know I am pretty interested in how your lift comes out. I am still battling mine. In fact, based on your results, that may sway me to try a different brand.
I was speaking theoretically, meaning it wasn't going to take much to install the arms. Not the best analogy...I guess a wrench will just be needed for the lock nuts.
I'm very confident it will be level, just like my old OME lift was level the first time. I ordered the exact same springs as last time, so in my head, I have nothing to worry about. I mean I know about your situation with it not being level, but I'm just going off my own past experience. I made 100% certain to order the exact part numbers as before.
I am pretty sure I ordered the exact same parts as you did. I double checked today with the PDF you posted earlier, also I pulled the spacers out of the rear and am running the front OME spacers in the front only to get it level after replacing the rear springs as a recap
So to break it down
Rear springs now are light/medium with no spacers just the factory pad
front springs are heavies with the OME spacer stacked with the factory pad
Now it is pretty level rear to front with a slight rake, but my front right is 1 inch lower than my front left. (front A-B rear B-A from drivers seat)
It sounds like I got my springs from someone who built them on Friday haha.
My plan is to remove the front OME spacers and replace them with the 3/4 daystar spacer and add the rear spacers back and swap my front springs side to side and see if that levels everything out. Or just scrap it now, and replace them with BDS, and see if I have any better luck. I really don't want to do this twice.
I am a little bummed as I went down a logging road this weekend and bottomed something out in the rear. I really want to run the heavies, but the rear was two inches taller in the rear with the heavies so unless I replace the fronts with 4 inch springs I will never be able to level that out. So I was thinking about scrapping the OME and buying the BDS. @Rob5589 is running those I believe. I think they may work better for me since there are no choices in spring rates. Seems like they may have to be a little more precise in their build process.
Really, I am not, even though it looks like it, but I am not trying to make this thread about me. Just wanted to warn you that you may or may not have the same issues I am having, so I would start with the lift first. At least if you are going to do it all at the same time do the springs first then put it on all 4s then do the rest. Take some pics, so you can rub it in my face how easy it was for you. haha.
Good Luck!
I'm not saying I won't have an issue, I'm just going off my past experience in which the vehicle came out perfectly level front and rear, with the HD springs all around. If that isn't the case, I'll be pissed off, but I'm trying not to think about that right now, as I've obviously got a ton of other things to worry about instead!
I'm pretty sure I'm just going to have David do the suspension and tummy tuck for me. It will take me a month with the kids, whereas he can have it done in a few days or so.
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