Greg's 4x4 - Longmont, CO.
Long story short, great employees, first impression of owner was nice, and then he tried to s**t on me...so use this guy at your own risk... Read on if you're looking for a shop in Colorado and can't find reviews, or if you just want to read my rant. Either way, I now have gears but not a Go To 4x4 shop I could be happy with
I finally pulled the trigger on some 4.56 gears I've been wanting for a long while. After meeting with the owner of this joint, Greg, I was impressed and happy to give him my business. Without an official quote on paper, we worked out about $1900 for front and rear axles (30/44 setup), G2 gears and axle bearings with install kit and tax, oil and all supplies...no other costs. I was accepting that since he was the best price around me, though I see I should've waited. Dropped it off at 8am four days later and they had it done by 5pm, which I wasn't expecting but I was pretty excited about. When I picked it up, all of a sudden Greg tells me there was an issue that his distributor made a mistake and only quoted for one set of gears, so he tacked on an additional $400 from what we talked about($2300 total now) and we needed to work something out. 4 days in between the first conversation and dropping the TJ off and he never bothered to call say, "my bad, I got quoted the wrong price". Unless you're only worried about the rear set and never running 4WD, or just doing a repair for one axle, why would you only quote for one set and think the price sounded right? I smelled bullshit from the start. There is nobody in the right mind that would pay $1000 for gears ($1300 for labor- which he told me $1200 on day one), install kit, and bearings if they did their research. I told him if that was the price I would've ordered Revolution Gears with the master kit for half that damn price and paid for the labor. Told him straight up I wasn't paying for his mistake...and he was going to have to eat that extra cost. He's been in business for quite a while and I don't see how the quote didn't make sense, god knows how many of these gear swaps he's done. I offered $2000 and he reluctantly accepted....then he wanted cash. I literally ran 4 miles to the shop just to get a run in, so I wasn't carrying $2k in bills, screw that. Then he was upset that running a card would cost him as well...sorry Greg, I don't give a shit. So he ran the card and I asked if there were any "other issues: about the work being done...he said no." Though when I showed up his employees stated there were some issues with the ABS sensors that took a while to fix, but Greg hid that from me. As I was going to ask more ?'s Greg ignored me and walked to the back of the shop and didn't care for any more convo's. - pretty unprofessional if you ask me.
Now, I'm not knocking the work....drove it about 50 miles so far and still breaking them in, but I notice some additional torque and maybe loud gears for now...hopefully that will wear, but nothing to complain about on the gears. My alignment is knocked off, the vibration is back, and caster is out of whack after they put the axles back on so that's a pain in the ass but I can deal with it. Greg is a huge proponent of fixing the Colorado trails here and donates/volunteers to repair damages from a flood here a few years back. Awesome work, I must say... I wouldn't dare take that away from the guy. But it's horrible business to do what he did and expect a customer to pay for it, have a sour attitude about it, and then ignore the customer when they're talking to you. Am I right, or am I the asshole? He said he wasn't making a buck off me and I still call bullshit, I paid $1300 for labor alone, plus I paid for his parts, so I don't want to hear it. Btw, G2 gears are $194 on ExtremeTerrain (probably cheaper elsewhere). I'm so disappointed I won't even take it back at 500miles to drain the axles after break-in, I'll do it on my own.
Anyway, that's my story. His employees were pretty cool guys and seemed nice. So take this for what it's worth, but thought I would share anyway. Enjoy the Easter Weekend.
Long story short, great employees, first impression of owner was nice, and then he tried to s**t on me...so use this guy at your own risk... Read on if you're looking for a shop in Colorado and can't find reviews, or if you just want to read my rant. Either way, I now have gears but not a Go To 4x4 shop I could be happy with
I finally pulled the trigger on some 4.56 gears I've been wanting for a long while. After meeting with the owner of this joint, Greg, I was impressed and happy to give him my business. Without an official quote on paper, we worked out about $1900 for front and rear axles (30/44 setup), G2 gears and axle bearings with install kit and tax, oil and all supplies...no other costs. I was accepting that since he was the best price around me, though I see I should've waited. Dropped it off at 8am four days later and they had it done by 5pm, which I wasn't expecting but I was pretty excited about. When I picked it up, all of a sudden Greg tells me there was an issue that his distributor made a mistake and only quoted for one set of gears, so he tacked on an additional $400 from what we talked about($2300 total now) and we needed to work something out. 4 days in between the first conversation and dropping the TJ off and he never bothered to call say, "my bad, I got quoted the wrong price". Unless you're only worried about the rear set and never running 4WD, or just doing a repair for one axle, why would you only quote for one set and think the price sounded right? I smelled bullshit from the start. There is nobody in the right mind that would pay $1000 for gears ($1300 for labor- which he told me $1200 on day one), install kit, and bearings if they did their research. I told him if that was the price I would've ordered Revolution Gears with the master kit for half that damn price and paid for the labor. Told him straight up I wasn't paying for his mistake...and he was going to have to eat that extra cost. He's been in business for quite a while and I don't see how the quote didn't make sense, god knows how many of these gear swaps he's done. I offered $2000 and he reluctantly accepted....then he wanted cash. I literally ran 4 miles to the shop just to get a run in, so I wasn't carrying $2k in bills, screw that. Then he was upset that running a card would cost him as well...sorry Greg, I don't give a shit. So he ran the card and I asked if there were any "other issues: about the work being done...he said no." Though when I showed up his employees stated there were some issues with the ABS sensors that took a while to fix, but Greg hid that from me. As I was going to ask more ?'s Greg ignored me and walked to the back of the shop and didn't care for any more convo's. - pretty unprofessional if you ask me.
Now, I'm not knocking the work....drove it about 50 miles so far and still breaking them in, but I notice some additional torque and maybe loud gears for now...hopefully that will wear, but nothing to complain about on the gears. My alignment is knocked off, the vibration is back, and caster is out of whack after they put the axles back on so that's a pain in the ass but I can deal with it. Greg is a huge proponent of fixing the Colorado trails here and donates/volunteers to repair damages from a flood here a few years back. Awesome work, I must say... I wouldn't dare take that away from the guy. But it's horrible business to do what he did and expect a customer to pay for it, have a sour attitude about it, and then ignore the customer when they're talking to you. Am I right, or am I the asshole? He said he wasn't making a buck off me and I still call bullshit, I paid $1300 for labor alone, plus I paid for his parts, so I don't want to hear it. Btw, G2 gears are $194 on ExtremeTerrain (probably cheaper elsewhere). I'm so disappointed I won't even take it back at 500miles to drain the axles after break-in, I'll do it on my own.
Anyway, that's my story. His employees were pretty cool guys and seemed nice. So take this for what it's worth, but thought I would share anyway. Enjoy the Easter Weekend.
