35s.. performance ??

[mrblaine]

Crap I knew there was a reason I ignored you.

BTW Frank, I needed you here yesterday. I installed a Super 16" kit on a TJ Rubicon along with new rear pads and rotors. I get it all done, have a very nice time chit chatting with the owner and then go do the break in. I need to center the steering wheel due to swapping out his dropped pitman arm so I get back from the break in and do that. Then I have him drive it and a mild toe tap will lock up his 33's at this point and he seems to like his brakes and the steering.

It's an 04 and I notice on the several times I've had to stop and then restart it that it appears to have the injector heat soak issue but it goes away pretty quickly.

Get done and he leaves and leaves at full throttle for some reason and I hear the engine missing as it goes up the hill. I'm putting a few tools away and he whips back into the driveway, sticks his head out the window and hollers at me that he has a check engine light.

I say Okay, you have a check engine light.
It wasn't on when I got here.
Yes, I understand that but there is nothing related to working on the brakes that will throw a check engine light.
I didn't have one until you touched my Jeep.
Yes, I understand that, but again, there is nothing about the brakes that will throw a code. But, I did hear your engine missing as you were going up the hill so I suspect you have a cylinder 3 misfire due to a heat soaked injector.
I didn't have a CEL when I got here.

I tell him to hold on a second and I'll get the scanner and we'll see what it is. I scan it and the code pops up, Cylinder 3 misfire. I flip the screen around and show him and say see, just like I said.

I get a blank stare so I tell him to hold on and I cleared the code. Tell him to start it up and listen to the motor. It will idle rough and then in about a minute the intake will cool down, heat soak will go away and the idle will smooth right out. He starts it, it idles rough and then cools down the injector and the idle turns to a smooth purr.

I get another blank stare and I explain yet again, I didn't do it. You have an 04, there is a TSB for the heat soak issue, go look it up.
Still a blank stare so I needed you here to slap him in the back of the head and tell him to listen to someone because he sure wasn't listening to me.

 

[billiebob]

Knowledge is king !!!

 

[billiebob]

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I would not mind knowing the distances our products are capable of delivering but I doubt I would ever publish them due to liability reasons and the fact that most of the general public will tend to ignore any and all qualifiers about the test results.

well Jp Mag did it.I understand your liability issues but hey why not supply the vehicles stock, modified whatever to an independent? Can positive results for your products hurt your business ?

And whats this.... "I would not mind knowing ????" You mean yer selling, designing products and you have no idea ?????
I know why out of line.... But really.... you have no idea how much your products improve performance ??? I grew up racing. The difference was measured every time we started the car. Sounds like the 4WD after market is just a marketing experiment.

 

[mrblaine]

well Jp Mag did it.I understand your liability issues but hey why not supply the vehicles stock, modified whatever to an independent? Can positive results for your products hurt your business ?

And whats this.... "I would not mind knowing ????" You mean yer selling, designing products and you have no idea ?????
I know why out of line.... But really.... you have no idea how much your products improve performance ??? I grew up racing. The difference was measured every time we started the car. Sounds like the 4WD after market is just a marketing experiment.

I want you to go do the simple test I asked you to and then get back to me.

 

[Stinger]

BTW Frank, I needed you here yesterday. I installed a Super 16" kit on a TJ Rubicon along with new rear pads and rotors. I get it all done, have a very nice time chit chatting with the owner and then go do the break in. I need to center the steering wheel due to swapping out his dropped pitman arm so I get back from the break in and do that. Then I have him drive it and a mild toe tap will lock up his 33's at this point and he seems to like his brakes and the steering.

It's an 04 and I notice on the several times I've had to stop and then restart it that it appears to have the injector heat soak issue but it goes away pretty quickly.

Get done and he leaves and leaves at full throttle for some reason and I hear the engine missing as it goes up the hill. I'm putting a few tools away and he whips back into the driveway, sticks his head out the window and hollers at me that he has a check engine light.

I say Okay, you have a check engine light.
It wasn't on when I got here.
Yes, I understand that but there is nothing related to working on the brakes that will throw a check engine light.
I didn't have one until you touched my Jeep.
Yes, I understand that, but again, there is nothing about the brakes that will throw a code. But, I did hear your engine missing as you were going up the hill so I suspect you have a cylinder 3 misfire due to a heat soaked injector.
I didn't have a CEL when I got here.

I tell him to hold on a second and I'll get the scanner and we'll see what it is. I scan it and the code pops up, Cylinder 3 misfire. I flip the screen around and show him and say see, just like I said.

I get a blank stare so I tell him to hold on and I cleared the code. Tell him to start it up and listen to the motor. It will idle rough and then in about a minute the intake will cool down, heat soak will go away and the idle will smooth right out. He starts it, it idles rough and then cools down the injector and the idle turns to a smooth purr.

I get another blank stare and I explain yet again, I didn't do it. You have an 04, there is a TSB for the heat soak issue, go look it up.
Still a blank stare so I needed you here to slap him in the back of the head and tell him to listen to someone because he sure wasn't listening to me.

Sometimes Blaine you need a BFH to penetrate thick skulls. Try being a cop and trying to reason with stupid!

 

[Stinger]

I want you to go do the simple test I asked you to and then get back to me.

To whom was this directed. I thought I did everything you told me. I have my head almost all the way out of my ass.

BTW I think my overheating is a blown head gasket!

 

[Stinger]

Just one?

Wasn't directed to you!

 

[mrblaine]

Sometimes Blaine you need a BFH to penetrate thick skulls. Try being a cop and trying to reason with stupid!

We have a Canadian friend named Ian who told a story on JU once upon a time about a guy he pulled over that ran a stop sign after slowing just a bit for it. The guy asked why he was being harassed because he had slowed down. Ian whipped out his nightstick and proceeded to start beating the guy with it and then asked him, "do you want me to slow down or stop?????".

 

[mrblaine]

BTW I think my overheating is a blown head gasket!

That would be sad news indeed.

 

[Stinger]

We have a Canadian friend named Ian who told a story on JU once upon a time about a guy he pulled over that ran a stop sign after slowing just a bit for it. The guy asked why he was being harassed because he had slowed down. Ian whipped out his nightstick and proceeded to start beating the guy with it and then asked him, "do you want me to slow down or stop?????".

Why didn't I ever think of that?

 

[Stinger]

Yes sir!

That would be sad news indeed.

Not sure why or what caused it but bubbles coming up the coolant usually only mean one thing.

 

[Grandpajoe94]

BTW Frank, I needed you here yesterday. I installed a Super 16" kit on a TJ Rubicon along with new rear pads and rotors. I get it all done, have a very nice time chit chatting with the owner and then go do the break in. I need to center the steering wheel due to swapping out his dropped pitman arm so I get back from the break in and do that. Then I have him drive it and a mild toe tap will lock up his 33's at this point and he seems to like his brakes and the steering.

It's an 04 and I notice on the several times I've had to stop and then restart it that it appears to have the injector heat soak issue but it goes away pretty quickly.

Get done and he leaves and leaves at full throttle for some reason and I hear the engine missing as it goes up the hill. I'm putting a few tools away and he whips back into the driveway, sticks his head out the window and hollers at me that he has a check engine light.

I say Okay, you have a check engine light.
It wasn't on when I got here.
Yes, I understand that but there is nothing related to working on the brakes that will throw a check engine light.
I didn't have one until you touched my Jeep.
Yes, I understand that, but again, there is nothing about the brakes that will throw a code. But, I did hear your engine missing as you were going up the hill so I suspect you have a cylinder 3 misfire due to a heat soaked injector.
I didn't have a CEL when I got here.

I tell him to hold on a second and I'll get the scanner and we'll see what it is. I scan it and the code pops up, Cylinder 3 misfire. I flip the screen around and show him and say see, just like I said.

I get a blank stare so I tell him to hold on and I cleared the code. Tell him to start it up and listen to the motor. It will idle rough and then in about a minute the intake will cool down, heat soak will go away and the idle will smooth right out. He starts it, it idles rough and then cools down the injector and the idle turns to a smooth purr.

I get another blank stare and I explain yet again, I didn't do it. You have an 04, there is a TSB for the heat soak issue, go look it up.
Still a blank stare so I needed you here to slap him in the back of the head and tell him to listen to someone because he sure wasn't listening to me.

 

[Grandpajoe94]

Heat soak issue resolved! Couldn't find the part shown. Substituted with the plug boot insulator "... customized ..." to fit. Worked like a charm. Thanks to all.

 

[Chris]

Heat soak issue resolved! Couldn't find the part shown. Substituted with the plug boot insulator "... customized ..." to fit. Worked like a charm. Thanks to all.

Awesome news! Glad you were able to get it sorted out.

 

[Stinger]

I like cheap fixes!