Locker recommendations for TJ?

I actually wasn't sure. The ARB needs 90-100psi. I trust that any ARB compressor can reach that. A little compressor like a Viair 88p can eventually fill a 33, but I highly doubt it can reach the pressures needed power an ARB.
I would absolutely trust even a small compressor like the Viair 88p to do the job of powering ARB just as well as the similar size ARB compressor does that their basic kit includes. The 88p's max pressure is 120 psi which it would achieve very quickly in the small volume made up by the air line and the ARB air locker. https://www.viaircorp.com/portables/88p
 
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For the OP.....

I just went through this a little over a week ago, and just back from my first trip on Thursday to Deer Valley.

I was getting ready for regearing and talked myself through all the options before deciding. Based on some old posts by Jerry Bransford and others....went with the Detroit in the rear, open in the front. Very happy with it. I’ll also mention that I simply trusted in the recommended (by Jerry) ratio for my engine/tire/tranny combo, and it works great. Could have even gone one ratio lower honestly due to mainly driving up in the mountains.

I also swapped a used 44 into the rear and then had the shop handle the rest.
So I ended up with 4.56 gears, new bearings front and back, and the Detroit in the rear. He charged me $625 for the locker if that is helpful.

My Jeep is not a daily and doesn’t see snow or rain anymore, so the Detroit was the easy choice, you can feel it on the road but you adapt like Bransford said, and I like that it’s always on when off road.

Hope that helps!
 
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I would absolutely trust even a small compressor like the Viair 88p to do the job of powering ARB just as well as the similar size ARB compressor does that their basic kit includes. The 88p's max pressure is 120 psi which it would achieve very quickly in the small volume made up by the air line and the ARB air locker. https://www.viaircorp.com/portables/88p
Now that I think about it more, a skinny road bike tire is typically filled to 110-120psi. Any compressor that can fill a bicycle tire can power an ARB.
 
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When I get locked and I'm off-road I'll be locked the whole time. I see people wanting to switch on and off in their journey. I'm not interested in that. The only advantage can be better turning radius, but I'm not too concerned about that. I'll be lunchboxed up front and so just coming out of 4wd will disengage it and give me the turning radius if needed. I can see the desire for a rear selectable just for DD.
 
Now that I think about it more, a skinny road bike tire is typically filled to 110-120psi. Any compressor that can fill a bicycle tire can power an ARB.
That's a great analogy. I used to ride road bikes and usually ran 120 psi which I was able to achieve with a small hand pump.
 
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Sometimes I think people are confused about the purpose of a locker. IMO, it is to enable you to complete obstacles in the quickest, most efficient fashion without damaging your Jeep. That's why I'm not going to be turning mine off when I'm on the trails we run. Some people act like they want to get stuck before they turn on their lockers. I don't think that's a very wise approach.
 
Sometimes I think people are confused about the purpose of a locker. IMO, it is to enable you to complete obstacles in the quickest, most efficient fashion without damaging your Jeep. That's why I'm not going to be turning mine off when I'm on the trails we run. Some people act like they want to get stuck before they turn on their lockers. I don't think that's a very wise approach.
I agree 100% with all of that. Especially the part I bolded.
 
that's weird, has it always been like that? When I kick mine on it cycles for about a second or two then shuts off, & that's with both lockers engaged (I generally flip all 3 switches up at the same time). Maybe a leak? It does take a rotation or so of the tires for the lockers themselves to engage however

I am pretty sure its a solenoid leak. I'll leave the compressor on for the entire trail and it will cycle every 5-10 min.
 
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Sometimes I think people are confused about the purpose of a locker. IMO, it is to enable you to complete obstacles in the quickest, most efficient fashion without damaging your Jeep. That's why I'm not going to be turning mine off when I'm on the trails we run. Some people act like they want to get stuck before they turn on their lockers. I don't think that's a very wise approach.

I don’t like to get stuck first before turning them on but I still take the opposite approach, I go in open and stay that way & if I come upon an obstacle I know will require them I’ll turn them on before I begin my approach. Other times forward momentum is lost due to circumstances I didn’t anticipate & when that happens I’ll usually just back up a few feet & come at it more deliberately or pick a different line. I’ll usually try that 2 or 3 times before hitting the button. I do this because I believe open differentials are the least stressful on the components plus it’s more challenging/fun, it’s also a real bitch trying to turn tight all locked up & most of the stuff I do is really tight. One of my favorite things about the TJ is its nimbleness, locked axles can often turn what should be a clean & fluid motion into a 3 point (or more) turn & I enjoy laughing at the JKU guys too much that have no choice but to do that to inflict that same fate on myself.

All that said I’m guessing you guys that stay locked all day are doing much more difficult stuff than I am…
 
I do this because I believe open differentials are the least stressful on the components
Consider that one common reason for a broken axle shaft is from it spinning when open/unlocked and then suddenly finding traction. That's one reason I leave at least my rear locker on most of the time when offroad.
 
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For a daily street queen that takes a couple trips up to the snow every season, would a Detroit Truetrac be a viable option if one were on a tight budget?
 
For a daily street queen that takes a couple trips up to the snow every season, would a Detroit Truetrac be a viable option if one were on a tight budget?
A Detroit Truetrac is not a locker but it costs about the same as a Detroit Locker, not to mention a Detroit Truetrac is more expensive than lunchbox lockers are. That said, it depends on what type of snow conditions you're talking about when deciding whether to use a locker. If you will be wheeling on icy trails, then a Detroit Truetrac limited slip differential is the best choice. But if you'll be in deep snow, then a locker is better. Lockers are generally the best way to go for offroad since limited slip differentials barely, if at all, help in most offroad situations. But if you plan to be on ice whether it's on an icy road or an ice-covered trail, a Detroit Truetrac would be the best choice.
 
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I don’t like to get stuck first before turning them on but I still take the opposite approach, I go in open and stay that way & if I come upon an obstacle I know will require them I’ll turn them on before I begin my approach. Other times forward momentum is lost due to circumstances I didn’t anticipate & when that happens I’ll usually just back up a few feet & come at it more deliberately or pick a different line. I’ll usually try that 2 or 3 times before hitting the button. I do this because I believe open differentials are the least stressful on the components plus it’s more challenging/fun, it’s also a real bitch trying to turn tight all locked up & most of the stuff I do is really tight. One of my favorite things about the TJ is its nimbleness, locked axles can often turn what should be a clean & fluid motion into a 3 point (or more) turn & I enjoy laughing at the JKU guys too much that have no choice but to do that to inflict that same fate on myself.

All that said I’m guessing you guys that stay locked all day are doing much more difficult stuff than I am…
I get it. It's hard to compare our wheeling locations. When turning while locked I agree that it widens your turn radius. This can be a disadvantage if you are on a steep decline like we are on one trail we run called T-Rex where at the base of that descent the trail turns about 130*. Even open we have to back up at least twice to make the turn, and not without some unfortunate flare-to-rock contact on occasion. It does put the manual driver to the test. But usually I'd just prefer to have them on since most turns are not that tight. It's mainly the front locker that limits turn radius, so either a selectable or a lunchbox can be disengaged, the latter by slipping into 2wd momentarily.
 
I imagine trying to run Black Bear Pass while locked is a good way to get yourself killed. ;)
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I imagine trying to run Black Bear Pass while locked is a good way to get yourself killed. ;)
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Didn't I read this is near Ouray? We're heading up there around April 24, 2019, I'd like to do Imogene. What passes do you suggest in that area? AT the end of April, of course. I noticed a lot of stuff is probably still closed till later in May
 
Didn't I read this is near Ouray? We're heading up there around April 24, 2019, I'd like to do Imogene. What passes do you suggest in that area? AT the end of April, of course. I noticed a lot of stuff is probably still closed till later in May

I don't think we'll be doing too many passes with the snow and all that time of year.
 
Didn't I read this is near Ouray? We're heading up there around April 24, 2019, I'd like to do Imogene. What passes do you suggest in that area? AT the end of April, of course. I noticed a lot of stuff is probably still closed till later in May

Too early in the season, unfortunately. This was Imogene and the surrounding area in mid July last year. Things had just begun to open up a few weeks earlier.

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If you want to detour through Colorado in the spring/early summer, look at bushducks.com for regular updates on trail openings.
 
Consider that one common reason for a broken axle shaft is from it spinning when open/unlocked and then suddenly finding traction. That's one reason I leave at least my rear locker on most of the time when offroad.

I get that, and think these things are unique to the operator and the environment he’s in. I lean pretty conservative, when I’m on anything but a flat dirt connecting trail I’m moving low & slow & when I feel spin I’ll hit the clutch & kill the torque to eliminate any potential shock load that might result from sudden traction, then I figure out what the problem is & go from there. At the other end of the spectrum is the guy that thinks the answer to all ills is to mash the pedal on the right, I swear sometimes I get chest pains watching those guys.

I imagine trying to run Black Bear Pass while locked is a good way to get yourself killed. ;)
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that looks simply terrifying :eek:
 
I get that, and think these things are unique to the operator and the environment he’s in. I lean pretty conservative, when I’m on anything but a flat dirt connecting trail I’m moving low & slow & when I feel spin I’ll hit the clutch & kill the torque to eliminate any potential shock load that might result from sudden traction, then I figure out what the problem is & go from there. At the other end of the spectrum is the guy that thinks the answer to all ills is to mash the pedal on the right, I swear sometimes I get chest pains watching those guys.



that looks simply terrifying :eek:
It's mostly psychological. My first time through, I was able to get all the turns done without ever backing up. The second time, I had to make a few maneuvers that put the front tire right on the edge. Beginner's luck.

BBP does not require lockers at any time. And if you did turn them off, you are asking for trouble.