Should I buy this Ford 8.8 axle?

[jjvw]

No locker in price calculation.

Got to look into what locker is included with the tj 44 and what’s need to run the locker in the rubicon version.

No locker? Tires no larger than 35"? What is the point of this again?

The Rubicon 44 locker has its flaws. But is generally safe for 35s. If one needs to swap it out, there is nothing unique about it. A full price ARB116 or 117 is just under $1000 plus the cost of the regear and an air supply. A Detroit is considerably less.

 

[mrblaine]

I think it's safe to say that the reason it's a RJ60 is because he didn't want a regular 60 with less ground clearance.

It isn't just clearance at the low point, it is also how wide that loss of clearance is or isn't.

 

[mrblaine]

Just stop. I just was arguing against the folks that blurt our random here say and scare folks away. Jjvw blurted the 44 has better ground clearance, and yes I agree but it’s a quarter of an inch difference. mrblain said it’s so much of a difference that he is shaving 8.8, yet is running at least a 1/8” if not a 1/4” diff skid. I don’t get it.

That's not an 8.8 and it isn't an iron center section.

 

[toximus]

It isn't just clearance at the low point, it is also how wide that loss of clearance is or isn't.

I was hoping we'd get there.

 

[MallCrawlOnTons]

That's not an 8.8 and it isn't an iron center section.

Cool bro. Let me post a random pic of a Rockwell and show everyone when they are talk about 44s and 8.8s.

 

[MallCrawlOnTons]

No locker? Tires no larger than 35"? What is the point of this again?

The Rubicon 44 has its flaws. But is generally safe for 35s. If one needs to swap it out, there is nothing unique about it. A full price ARB116 or 117 is just under $1000 plus the cost of the regear and an air supply. A Detroit is considerably less.

You’d have to add in the cost of the air supply, the electrical components as well. Plus the mounting of the air compressor, the on going maintenance of the air compressor and everything else. I personally would rather compare an open diff 8.8 to a open diff 44.

Let’s compare the 44 to the 8.8 in a new thread with tons of photos, measurements and numbers.

 

[jjvw]

.... I personally would rather compare an open diff 8.8 to a open diff 44.

Then what is the purpose of an 8.8? What problem is being addressed by adding one?

Let’s compare the 44 to the 8.8 in a new thread with tons of photos, measurements and numbers.

Good idea.

 

[mrblaine]

Cool bro. Let me post a random pic of a Rockwell and show everyone when they are talk about 44s and 8.8s.

That is the axle under my rig, I built the white rig in the rocks and I've shaved an 8.8 so I'm hardly random.

 

[toximus]

Let’s compare the 44 to the 8.8 in a new thread with tons of photos, measurements and numbers.

You said your self that there is no comparison:

Oh 44 all night!

So what are we comparing?

 

[MallCrawlOnTons]

Then what is the purpose of an 8.8? What problem is being solved?


Good idea.

Situation is going from an open diff 35 to either the 44 or 8.8. We will talk about it soon in a new thread.

 

[jjvw]

Situation is going from an open diff 35 to either the 44 or 8.8. We will talk about it soon in a new thread.

The same question will still apply. And you will need to talk about tire size, like it or not.

 

[toximus]

Situation is going from an open diff 35 to either the 44 or 8.8. We will talk about it soon in a new thread.

Remind me again why we're replacing the 35?

 

[MallCrawlOnTons]

That is the axle under my rig, I built the white rig in the rocks and I've shaved an 8.8 so I'm hardly random.

Still don’t see what it has to do with here. You also should get more ground clearance with that axle and lose the chunky diff gaurd. :clapclap:

 

[jjvw]

Remind me again why we're replacing the 35?

No one knows. :clapclap:

 

[MallCrawlOnTons]

Remind me again why we're replacing the 35?

Don’t see your Jeep in your profile.
You run a 35?

 

[toximus]

Don’t see your Jeep in your profile.
You run a 35?

Nah. 37 and a chunky diff guard on my iron pumpkin.

 

[softballnrd27]

TJ Dana 44 vs Explorer 8.8" stock to stock.
8.8" is c-clip TJ 44 is not +1 to 44
Both can be found with Disc brakes tie
8.8" has stronger axle tubes +1 8.8
aftermarket support is about even
Ring gear is bigger on 8.8"
Dana 44 has l slightly more ground clearance

Either one can be made to work and the shortcomings on each one can be addressed with aftermarket products.
Personally, anything over 35" tires I want to go wider before going taller.

 

[ElectricWizard]

 

[jjvw]

....
8.8" has stronger axle tubes +1 8.8
...

How useful is this additional strength provided by the 8.8? Again, what real world problem with the Dana 35 is being addressed by moving to an axle with stronger tubes?

Are we solving the same type of problem by adding inner-c gussets to the TJ Dana 30?

Either one can be made to work and the shortcomings on each one can be addressed with aftermarket products.
Personally, anything over 35" tires I want to go wider before going taller.

Agreed.

 

[softballnrd27]

I was just comparing them stock to stock. To me an 8.8 is not worth it to swap into a TJ