alittleoff
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When I was much much younger, it was one spank per year old.
Now that I'm 60, I kinda like it....
Now that I'm 60, I kinda like it....
You're a sick man...... :meparto:When I was much much younger, it was one spank per year old.
Now that I'm 60, I kinda like it....
When I was much much younger, it was one spank per year old.
Now that I'm 60, I kinda like it....
You're a sick man...... :meparto:
I'm sure he would have been arrested in Oregon and Washington too.
This story wants makes me want to move back to western NC (something I already want to do).
I remember that one...:facepalm:People with kids nowadays are screwed no matter what. This mom got investigated for letting her daughter walk her dog alone...
https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-new...ng-debate-among-parents-1305272387569?v=railb
Sounds like that's what the man in Fresno CA did but his daughter went and told her teacher and the teacher told CPS.That's why now a days you have to keep your children's discipline in your house without any prying eyes. And if you'r children don;t like it, tell them to go live with someone else. Yeah, I'm old school!!!!!
I'm not lecturing you here at all, just using your post as a platform to put some ideas out there. I agree with everything you're saying and most on this thread.Sounds like that's what the man in Fresno CA did but his daughter went and told her teacher and the teacher told CPS.
Sounds like that's what the man in Fresno CA did but his daughter went and told her teacher and the teacher told CPS.
A Democratic assemblyman in California was arrested Monday on suspicion of child cruelty after allegedly spanking his daughter. On Wednesday, he claimed that he had only done so as a means of punishment.
In an interview with the Fresno Bee, lawmaker Joaquin Arambula spoke about an incident at home Sunday night that led him to spank his 7-year-old. The following day, when she went to school, she allegedly told her teacher what had happened and expressed how she was upset about it, sparking an investigation by Child Protective Services (CPS).
“I disciplined her as a consequence to something she did. This is something that’s really rare for us. It’s a tool of last resort but it’s something that we do. And I spanked her bottom,” he explained. “She was pretty upset, and she struggled to be able to share her emotions, as I’m sure you can appreciate a 7-year-old will. But that’s all that happened.”
View attachment 67893 Joaquin Arambula was arrested Monday on suspicion of child cruelty. (Photo: Fresno Police Department)
Still, Arambula was arrested on Monday night and accused of willful cruelty to a child. As of Wednesday, CPS and the Department of Social Services declared Arambula and his wife, Elizabeth, fit to bring their three children — aged 3, 6 and 7 — who had been staying with Arambula’s parents, back home.
“It was us disciplining — normal discipline to our child,” Arambula said. “And I’m in the midst of a process that is playing out as we speak.”
The Fresno Bee additionally reports, “Arambula thanked his daughter’s teacher, Fresno police and Child Protective Services for ‘doing their jobs’ and ‘following the process.’” Family psychologist Barbara Greenberg tells Yahoo Lifestyle that the incident was “handled beautifully.”
“Anything that hurts a child physically and emotionally, in my opinion, is abuse and should be reported,” Greenberg says. “Too often kids go to school looking for help and they’re not taken seriously. The school took this very seriously, as they should, and they did what they were supposed to do.”
As for the assemblyman’s actions, however, Greenberg says, “Nothing good comes from [spanking].”
“There are much, much better ways to teach your children, and losing control and putting your hands on a child, there’s nothing good that comes from it,” she says. “You don’t create kids with self-esteem and with the ability to handle frustration by spanking them.”
Arambula told the publication that he has no plans to resign. If convicted, the assemblyman could face up to six months in jail and possible probation.
I would never give unwanted parenting advise and I would like to be giving the same curiosity.
Well put....I agree.I'm not lecturing you here at all, just using your post as a platform to put some ideas out there. I agree with everything you're saying and most on this thread.
The issue is more than 'spanking' as a general term which may convey any number of ideas to people like hitting, striking, punishing, et al. Corporal discipline done properly is a proper and effective method of discipline during early stages of development. It starts with the mother simply thumping the child lightly when they bite her nipple and things like that. It is obviously not applied as harshly on a two year old as it is on a nine year old. In other words, developmental stage is a consideration. Also, one needs to think about the use of the hand vs a tool and what tool. An open hand is used to slap, a closed hand is a fist and is used to fight. Clearly a closed fist is a no go for disciplining a child. You're not fighting the child. Probably it is best to not use the hand at all and to use a tool. Different tools have different consequences. In my research as a parent I concluded that a straight rod, like a wooden dowel rod of ~3/8" is the best for stinging sharply (on a bare butt) without leaving a whelp. Obviously, using something like a bat or belt can result in unpredictable outcomes. I say consistency is a key and training your child why (but at younger ages the explanation is not very helpful to them and you will just frustrate them because their reasoning skills are not there, spank them and let them go play). When they reach about 13 or 14 this form of discipline is no longer of much value because of obvious reasons like physical development but also their heightened ability to reason, so other forms of discipline (not punishment), should be employed. On the difference between punishment and discipline, punishment grows out of anger while discipline grows out of love. The latter is very useful and important in shaping people into responsible, productive, disciplined humans.
I know! I just don't get it now days...kids are starting to learn they can get you in trouble for discipling them. Then go live somewhere else....here...let me help you pack. See how they would like that.Then let her go live in foster care...... she asked for it. If'd I'd have even thought about calling the police for being disciplined by my parents growing up, my father would have handed me my suitcase and told the cops to take me... AND NEVER THOUGHT TWICE ABOUT IT!!!!!