Bronco vs. Wrangler

It's just the square headlights that is un-American because most of us are not fair and square :)
Bronco will avoid the square headlights, I am sure bec of the their failed Bronco ll attempt (and of course the YJ)
 
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Mr. Bills said:
Real jeeps don't have a padded dash.
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I agree, that's why they call them Bronco
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Mr. Bills said:
Real jeeps don't have a padded dash. ;)
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TJ2 said:
I agree, that's why they call them Bronco
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Whatever. I don't do fanboy. Not even for jeeps, and I dare anyone to match how long I've been riding in, driving or owning jeeps.

[Unless you're older than me and went home from the hospital in a Willys as a newborn I doubt you can. ;)]
 
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TJ2 said:
I will still love the TJs.
I just don't like the JLs that's all.
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agree, I assumed it went without saying, there's not a chance a Bronco would replace my TJ - it would replace my wife's 5th gen 4runner as her daily and would relieve the TJ of full-family camping trip duties. And hopefully the removable top relieves me of the pressure to teach her to drive a stick so she can drive the TJ.
 
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I'm not terrible brand loyal having owned Pontiac, Chevy, Mazda, Honda, Toyota, Suzuki, Mini, and Jeep. So if the Bronco turns out to be nice, maybe I can talk my wife into one when the kids are out of college and we ditch the Mini-van. It depends on how fast they depreciate in value at 30,000 miles. That's typically when I buy vehicles. After someone took the 2 year, 30,000 mile hit and has had all the recall work done on them. If they hold there value and cost $35k with 100,000 miles, no thanks.

They may even have a 2.7L manual option by the time she'd be looking. My wife's Toyota and Mazda mini trucks in high school and college were manual. My older daughter drove a 6spd Mini Cooper in high school and college. So the only one still sort of learning to drive a stick is my youngest daughter. She's not quite there, but can get from point A to point B with one if necessary.

My father in law has owned Ford F150 trucks going back to the early 90s when I met my wife so he's become somewhat brand loyal.
 
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I'm kind of hoping with FCA facing off against this new Bronco line up it will motivate FCA to innovate more with their line up. Personally I don't like much of their newer vehicles. I would love to them do away with the current Cherokee design and come out with a new beefier, rugged Cherokee that that is more like the XJ. Probably a pipe dream lol
 
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Rack and pinion. Not particularly impressed - they often tend to have a short lifespan. And I'd be FAR more impressed with the Bronco's IFS if it were a Twin I-Beam. As soon as Ford moved away from that setup, they started having the same multiple front end issues as Chevy.
 
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I'm still pleasantly surprised to see anyone bringing a brand new vehicle to market with a manual transmission. Now to convince Ford to put it behind the V6.
 
Trying to talk the wife into trading our JK two door in for a two door Bronco. I bought an '04 TJR earlier this year. Still have my JK too, but I think I could dig that Bronco more. TJ is different, that raw, utilitarian feel you can't get with any new vehicle. The JK as nice as it is, power, ride. Is just a vehicle to me. I'm not loyal to any make, but I think Jeep is getting it's ass kicked by that Bronco, at least on paper. It looks WAY better then a JL, can get 35"s, lockers, armor. Jeep needs to get it's shi# together.
 
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Trying to talk the wife into trading our JK two door in for a two door Bronco. I bought an '04 TJR earlier this year. Still have my JK too, but I think I could dig that Bronco more. TJ is different, that raw, utilitarian feel you can't get with any new vehicle. The JK as nice as it is, power, ride. Is just a vehicle to me. I'm not loyal to any make, but I think Jeep is getting it's ass kicked by that Bronco, at least on paper. It looks WAY better then a JK, can get 35"s, lockers, armor. Jeep needs to get it's shi# together.
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Agreed
 
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I wasn't interested in trading my '18 Tacoma for a new Jeep but this new Bronco has got me thinking, especially in a couple years when they are willing to deal, some of the bugs have been worked out, and the aftermarket has had a chance to gel.
TJ will always be here however.
 
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