Why the hate for snorkels?

My favorite snorkel was on a Jeep with limb lifter cables. In the woods the cables directed the limbs just below the elbow. I don't see it living too long.
 
Well I can say from what I know they sure didn't keep any dust out in Iraq. We were cleaning air filters daily because of all the dust.
Same in Afghanistan. I spent many years driving and maintaining HMMWVs throughout the world. The snorkel is for the water, the filter is for the dust. Think of the marines with their extended tailpipes. When you’re in the dust it doesn’t matter where your intake is, it’s getting filled.
 
Perhaps. Though I don't see the need to make the Jeep look dumb when a sensible technique is free and valuable beyond just driving through water.

An important part I left out is that this guy also had an exposed cone filter that probably cost at least $80. I highly doubt that the stock air box would have allowed the same kind of water ingestion as his "upgrade" did.

The lack of a snorkel wasn't the problem.

Was it Todd on (if I remember right) Spring Creek a couple years ago?

If so I believe he said it turned out to be a head gasket
 
Was it Todd on (if I remember right) Spring Creek a couple years ago?

If so I believe he said it turned out to be a head gasket

Eagle Rock a couple Springs ago when the drive up the mountain was incredibly dusty. You didn't have a front locker yet.

White LJ with a Teraflex long arm. Red hair, wife and two kids were along. I never saw him before or since.
 
This guy!
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Eagle Rock a couple Springs ago when the drive up the mountain was incredibly dusty. You didn't have a front locker yet.

White LJ with a Teraflex long arm. Red hair, wife and two kids were along. I never saw him before or since.

Sorry, Eagle Rock is what I meant. Yep, that was Todd. He told me it was a headgasket once he was back up and running. He sold that LJ soon after and has built up a porche SUV for offroading
 
Glad that's all it was.

Last month I saw an older Porsche Cayanne in Moab on the Arches Natl Park Jeep trail climbing the first group of steps and ledges.
 
After reading some of the comments about snorkels and being an 64C (88M for those young soldier) Vehicle Operator or in civilian terms Truck Driver. Snorkels on military vehicles are for river crossing or when off loading from boat transporter into mainland. I agree with those that said it's not wroth it if you are not planning to crossing water. I tested many vehicle and driven in dust storms of Iraq snorkels are useless in the desert. Just FYI
 
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Almost forgot if you do plan on crossing water over the hood or even front bumper level if you have an electric fan you gonna need a kill switch so that the water doesn't burn it out. FYI
 
A few years ago I came across a brand new bone stock Renegade and the owner had already hacked in a snorkel.
 
I have a Jeep and a boat, don't need a snorkel. I avoid unknown puddles since I have seen some swallow Jeeps whole. I mean, I'll drive through them if the water is below my hood line, but I am 100% not going first.

Still if it isn't my Jeep, do you want want. I am still going to have my opinion and judge you accordingly as demanded by the forum bylaws.
 
My wife got me the Jeep for my retirement gift, she doesn't know anything about Jeep hell she won't even get in the Jeep, but anyway it came with an cold air intake reach I don't like much cause of the area I live at hot desert El Paso. I been looking at enclosed air intakes what do you guys think about this air intake https://afepower.com/afe-power-54-76202-momentum-gt-pro-5r-cold-air-intake-system
 
Don't waste your $$$ with anything like that. Go get a used factory air intake and run a good paper element air filter like from AC-Delco, Wix, or Purolator. There is ZERO benefit to running a CAI in a Jeep. And the LAST kind of air filter you want to run around dusty dirty deserts is the K&N style that filter has. They pass fine dirt and dust like the filter is barely present.

I ran that kind of filter for a few months until a friend showed me just how much dirt & crap it was passing into the engine. I ended up having to add two prefilters over the top of it trying to reduce how much dirt & sand it was passing. In that Jeep I had added a compressor where the stock air filter box used to be so I couldn't reinstall it. If I could have I would have gone back to the factory air intake.

I had to add these two prefilters just to cut back on how dirt was getting into the throttle body.
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This compressor is why I couldn't go back to the factory air intake system like I would have preferred doing.
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My wife got me the Jeep for my retirement gift, she doesn't know anything about Jeep hell she won't even get in the Jeep, but anyway it came with an cold air intake reach I don't like much cause of the area I live at hot desert El Paso. I been looking at enclosed air intakes what do you guys think about this air intake https://afepower.com/afe-power-54-76202-momentum-gt-pro-5r-cold-air-intake-system
Disclaimer......... this is only showing one vehicles filter. Different versions my give different results. But his testing is sound and logical.

 
Don't waste your $$$ with anything like that. Go get a used factory air intake and run a good paper element air filter like from AC-Delco, Wix, or Purolator. There is ZERO benefit to running a CAI in a Jeep. And the LAST kind of air filter you want to run around dusty dirty deserts is the K&N style that filter has. They pass fine dirt and dust like the filter is barely present.

I ran that kind of filter for a few months until a friend showed me just how much dirt & crap it was passing into the engine. I ended up having to add two prefilters over the top of it trying to reduce how much dirt & sand it was passing. In that Jeep I had added a compressor where the stock air filter box used to be so I couldn't reinstall it. If I could have I would have gone back to the factory air intake.

I had to add these two prefilters just to cut back on how dirt was getting into the throttle body.
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This compressor is why I couldn't go back to the factory air intake system like I would have preferred doing.
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Yeah I been looking around for factory air box. it's kinda hard to find I saw that enclosed air intake kinda figure it would do the same.