Dave Kishpaugh's (Jeep West) geometry correction brackets are now available
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Brianj5600
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No idea. I don't usually ask questions I already know the answer to.
Brianj5600
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I would love conversation around any type. I know all I need to know about brake dive.
Then you know why the front arms don't direct forces to the ground during a climb.
I don't think so. I rode around in FWD for a while waiting for my DC driveshaft to arrive. I've got a short arm lifted 3". Under acceleration, the rear would squat hard. The front didn't drop. It may be worth mentioning that I didn't have rear shocks in either. Of course, accelerating on a flat road doesn't cover all situations.
Brianj5600
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That's what I was thinking. It is counterintuitive to me have the front suspension extended on a steep climb. I guess it depends on how steep steep is?
@jjvw would a 2wd Jeep climb just as well as a 4wd Jeep if no weight is on the front?
Pressurized
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Would require the perfect wheelie in the 4wd... Not happening, the front is still going to provide a significant amount of traction.
Although a lot can be done on the slickrock of Moab with 2wd.
There is a difference between no weight and unloading due to weight shift. One happens before the other.
Regardless, we are still waiting for someone to explain how the front arms can transfer a force to the ground during a climb. Until that happens all we are left with is gravity and whatever the rear end does to the weight shift.
Brianj5600
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A mid arm will also put more weight on the front end during a climb because the rear doesn't sink under load.
Correct. Especially as compared to a typical long arm where the rear sinks and causes the front to go light during a climb.
So then I would be led to believe that better rear geometry allows the front end to do more and become more important as it will have more weight on the front during a climb.
Yes. On a climb, the rear has a lot of influence on what the front can do.
Brianj5600
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Yeah, i think... the sinking rear would take more weight off the front hence giving the front less traction/weight being insignificant to the pull. Having a stable rear causes the front to remain steady to have a somewhat even distribution of weight since no end is sinking or raising, thus being efficient in the pull.
Is this correct?
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