In appreciation of steel wheels

Pretty sure Wheel vintiques can make you a set. They are on the heavier side but not crazy.
I didn't see that option. What changed? I checked with Stockton wheel as well. No joy.
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I didn't see that option. What changed? I checked with Stockton wheel as well. No joy.

L J just posted the info that I was going to share. One of the few wheels I liked when I was looking. The can make you single pattern drilled at an extra cost and also some backspacing customization at extra cost if you call them. They typically have 5x4.5/5x4.75 and 5x5.5/5x5 stocked with 4.5"bs. They will look good on a TJ with a silver paint like I did on mine.

Edit: this when design has very interesting history.
 
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When I was looking for a steel rim on older Jeeps, I kept running across the ones with round holes. Digging around, several referred to them as artillery wheels so that is what I was looking for. Something like the ones on the Jeep below.

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Durango steel rims are similar and have the 5.5" bolt circle I need. I have in mind to get the Toyo A/T III in a 35-11.50-17 which likes an 8" rim for some reason.

https://www.toyotires.com/product/open-country-at3
 
Are you opposed to running the AT3 on the narrow end of the approved wheel width range?

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Not wholly opposed. That is one of those things that has given me brain lock for some stupid reason. I know we run 12.50's on 8" rims with zero issues and it is in fact preferred. Why I keep getting all fuckered up with thinking I need an 8" rim for a narrower tire escapes me. I'd be fine with a 7.5" if I just stop thinking about it.
 
When I was looking for a steel rim on older Jeeps, I kept running across the ones with round holes. Digging around, several referred to them as artillery wheels so that is what I was looking for. Something like the ones on the Jeep below.

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Durango steel rims are similar and have the 5.5" bolt circle I need. I have in mind to get the Toyo A/T III in a 35-11.50-17 which likes an 8" rim for some reason.

https://www.toyotires.com/product/open-country-at3


You'll have better luck for them searching as "NATO wheels".

RAM 1500s spares might work?. 2002-2012 model years. 17x7, 5x5.5.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AODMR4E/?tag=wranglerorg-20

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Edit,: Oh, you want 7.5" width. I remember seeing another wheel with that, let me go look at my notes.
 
You'll have better luck for them searching as "NATO wheels".

RAM 1500s spares might work?. 2002-2012 model years. 17x7, 5x5.5.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01AODMR4E/?tag=wranglerorg-20

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Edit,: Oh, you want 7.5" width. I remember seeing another wheel with that, let me go look at my notes.
There is a ton of 7" stuff out there. Even some local in an eBay listing at a wheel seller. They were listed as 7.5" and when my helper measured, they were 7".
 
There is a ton of 7" stuff out there. Even some local in an eBay listing at a wheel seller. They were listed as 7.5" and when my helper measured, they were 7".

Ok found it, I have the right size but I was remembering the bolt pattern wrong. I was looking at so many wheels that I got it a bit mixed up.

Jeep Cherokee 2003-2010 spare rim. 17x7.5, 5x4.5 bolt circle. Not sure if it'll work for you given the bolt pattern unless you run adapters 🙁

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Ok found it, I have the right size but I was remembering the bolt pattern wrong. I was looking at so many wheels that I got it a bit mixed up.

Jeep Cherokee 2003-2010 spare rim. 17x7.5, 5x4.5 bolt circle. Not sure if it'll work for you given the bolt pattern unless you run adapters 🙁

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I can't run adapters that direction due to the large hub conversion. That's the same problem I kept running into and why I gave up.
 

That's an @Chris thing to lust after CJ style roll bars 😆

The owner did a pretty good job keeping it simple and clean and the obvious salute to older Jeeps. The black color definitely helps, I don't think the more modern colors would have worked as well.

That said, I still maintain that it doesn't "flow" quite as cohesive as @hosejockey61's factory looking work on his TJ. This is exactly what I was saying earlier in the post you quoted .. the JK/JL have other things going on them in terms of body lines and dimensions that it's much harder compared to TJ to give it that old school look.

@jscherb did you ever do any of your magic photoshop mock-ups on JKs to make them more old school looking? I've followed most of your TJ projects but not have read much JK/JL related stuff. You have a good eye for this, and I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the design language of the modern Jeeps.
 
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That's an @Chris thing to lust after CJ style roll bars 😆

The owner did a pretty good job keeping it simple and clean and the obvious salute to older Jeeps. The black color definitely helps, I don't think the more modern colors would have worked as well.

That said, I still maintain that it doesn't "flow" quite as cohesive as @hosejockey61's factory looking work on his TJ. This is exactly what I was saying earlier in the post you quoted .. the JK/JL have other things going on them in terms of body lines and dimensions that it's much harder compared to TJ to give it that old school look.

@jscherb did you ever do any of your magic photoshop mock-ups on JKs to make them more old school looking? I've followed most of your TJ projects but not have read much JK/JL related stuff. You have a good eye for this, and I'm interested to hear your thoughts on the design language of the modern Jeeps.
Just noticed this mention, sorry I didn't see it before. Here's a JKU with a Safari Cab hardtop, steel wheels and a Wagoneer-style front clip.

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I love steelies.

run them on my Toyota and would like to get a set for the LJ. Thinking 15x8 with 4.25-4.75 bs and 33x10.50’s.

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I use late 80"s dodge dakota steel wheels 15x6. Same bolt pattern and fit on TJ , YJ , and XJ . True vintage look


I’m so confused. You quoted me but i didn’t ask about bolt patterns for Toyota’s but I’ll correct you. They run a 6 on 5.5” pattern, Not the small Jeep/Ford Ranger pattern. For clarity sake.
 
I’m so confused. You quoted me but i didn’t ask about bolt patterns for Toyota’s but I’ll correct you. They run a 6 on 5.5” pattern, Not the small Jeep/Ford Ranger pattern. For clarity sake.
sorry , I was trying to add my input on TJ steel wheel options for a classic look. Didn't mean to reply directly to your post.
 
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In my recent quest to find a set of wheels for my Jeep, I ended up with steel wheels due to the fact that not much was available in terms of alloy options for exactly what I wanted. As I was looking at photo after photo of wheels, I realized that older style steel wheels are charming in their own way, esp on older 4x4s.

The visual design aspects are very interesting to think about in general. The wheels that old Toyota FJs and Land Rovers had were pretty utilitarian, but they looked very nice and fit really nicely within the design language of those rigs. CJs, too, with the white wagon wheels. I happened to see photos of a newer JKs/JLs that were running steel wheels (from a Ram 1500) and I kinda liked those as well. Part of me is happy that I have lightweight steel wheels today, though I do miss the Moab rims I was running before them. The TJ is an interesting vehicle in the sense that it can be made to look both modern or old school if careful choices are made. The JK/JL platforms quite don't have the same thing going on, partly I think due to paint type/color/texture and how the other modern design elements on newer vehicles kind of intentionally take away the "old-school-ness". Even on TJs, there are something that don't look right like they would have on a CJ.

Thought I would start a photo thread of steel wheels on older vehicles just for fun. Post up photos of you have anything that you like. I do understand the benefits of alloy wheels over steel, yada yada, but I am just talking looks here and not performance.


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1989 Dodge Dakota steel wheels, 15x6, bolt right up to TJ and are cheap at the junkyard if you can still find them!
 
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