Introduction - EV time for TJs

The root of all evil is interference and lack of empathy to ones fellow man.

It's the lack of imagination and patience to fully understand the natural state of all thing is change - for which the ONLY plausible 'cure' is adaptability.

Hence: Adapt or die.

Not cell phones. (not land lines, not telegraphs, not smoke signals, not petroglyphs, not a whisper of change carried on the gentle breeze.)

Focus Gentleman,

Old ass Jeeps, modern motor swap, nothing more, nothing less.

It's as simple as this: if you like electric tooth brushes, you'll get this.

If you don't and consider the intrusion of change in your life an afront to your personal understanding of your choices, that's fine but, projecting your societal fears on this one issue just because you own a Jeep is nothing more than leaning against a windmill.

I mean it, if you have an electric tooth brush, you'll be my customers, eventually.

If not, not much you can do about it but stomp your feet and shake your fist at the powers that be.

Victor Hugo summed it up rather nicely: 'Nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come.'.

Obviously, he was speaking directly to how much torque you make at 1rpm in all EV motors, obviously....

- Patrick

Despite what my detractors will tell you, I'm not opposed to tech - I worked in high tech my entire career, and it was only about the last 10 years that I didn't like the direction it was going in. But pointless tech and tech that is a step backwards, and tech that is designed to suck money out of my wallet I will decry at every opportunity. The smartphone is all three - and far more/worse.

Tech for its own sake is ridiculous - and much of it is just that, never mind that its senseless and poorly implemented - ON PURPOSE. People want to be fools, that's fine - I refuse to participate in the stupidity, just like I have refused my entire life to participate in lots of stupidities, most of them non-technological. Just because "everyone else" is doing something is no excuse to expect me to - indeed, if everyone else is doing "it", that's a pretty good reason to look at "it" with a critical eye, then go do the exact opposite as that is what actually makes sense much of the time. "Adapt or die" is fine - until it isn't. If I'm expected to adapt to bullshit, I would rather die. I don't want to live in such a world, and I won't. See "Covid-19 vaccine" for a reference...

The greatest evil of all is (needless) interference with free will. The smartphone is removing that from society and the world. Those of us who refuse the things are slowly, but surely becoming second class citizens as I found out a few months ago when I tried to rent a truck from Home Depot.

I've mentioned it before, but you're relatively new here so you may have missed it: I was in Egypt last January, and there I saw a society that the smartphone has not completely destroyed YET. The difference from our own society is almost shockingly clear - that was when my casual dislike of the smartphone deepened sharply to enmity which subsequent research has only intensified. If I were a Christian, I'd say that the thing is the instrument of the Devil, and a gateway to Hell. And many Christians are saying just that. I'm no Christian, but they're not wrong. All Americans care about is their damn smartphone and a perceived luxury lifestyle - effete, entitled, spoiled, oh-so-SAAAAAAFE, and pussified. Costs, both material and spiritual be damned! FUCK THAT.

If you want me - and those like me - to be your customers, its going to take more than selling us an electric toothbrush (Yes, I have one!). Integrate the smartphone if you must, but do not require one to use your product. Don't put in computerized bullshit like that which is infesting the EV industry. I don't need nor want screens, electric door handles and charge flaps, weird lighting effects, self-driving horseshit, and most definitely not any goddamned telematics - an absolute way to keep people like me away. An EV is supposed to be simple: A battery, a charger, a motor, a PWM or AC controller, and an "e-meter" for battery status. NOTHING ELSE!

Thank Goddess I only have about 20 more years on this rock this time around - I can keep my old junk running until it doesn't matter anymore. Then the world can slavishly devote themselves to their evil devices (and pay, pay, pay, pay for the "privilege"), their horrid "social media", and can be even more effete then they already are - I won't be here to care. The amount of contempt I have for this bullshit has grown several orders of magnitude since my return from Egypt. What fries my brain more than any other one thing, is the fact that most people know I'm right at one level or another, but they don't care enough to do something about it. I'm counting on the whole mess to collapse by the time I reincarnate.

Painted on a section of the old Berlin wall:

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People know, but not enough people care.
 
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A valid position one could take against a phone interface to an EV conversion is concern about what happens after we move past that tech. This is the same position I have regarding the SwitchPros app being the only access to the programming features. I do not know the answer. I am also not immediately opposed to a phone interface.

I do know that this is also not the issue to get hung up on.

Which segues directly into what I've been saying about gratuitous tech for years now: Obsolete in 5 years, broken in 10, and unrepairable at any price in 15.
 
Which segues directly into what I've been saying about gratuitous tech for years now: Obsolete in 5 years, broken in 10, and unrepairable at any price in 15.

Other than the most obvious of observations that conjure visions of you angerly typing on a coconut keyboard made by the Professor on Gilligan's Island (I was always hot for Mary-Ann, not Ginger), I will declare right now, I will have no gratuitous tech in my EV Jeep conversion builds.

Now, I think that settles it.

Moving on....

- Patrick
 
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Other than the most obvious of observations that conjure visions of you angerly typing on a coconut keyboard made by the Professor on Gilligan's Island (I was always hot for Mary-Ann, not Ginger), I will declare right now, I will have no gratuitous tech in my EV Jeep conversion builds.

Now, I think that settles it.

Moving on....

- Patrick

Same.

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I believe Slate is embracing the BYOD philosophy on their electric trucks. Not only to reduce costs but really catering to the demand of consumers.

Essentially the vehicle would have a Bluetooth connection and an app and various phone and tablet mounts.

-Mac
 
I believe Slate is embracing the BYOD philosophy on their electric trucks. Not only to reduce costs but really catering to the demand of consumers.

Essentially the vehicle would have a Bluetooth connection and an app and various phone and tablet mounts.

-Mac

I can't wait to see one of their trucks on the road, or just get a clean review - very interesting sector.

LOVE 'BYOD' methodology - exactly correct, that's our philisophy. Stubs and plugs for you to add whatever fits your Jeeping lifestyle.

I got a request from a Atlanta Jeep club member asking me how many 'LED plugs' will be available. I'm pretty sure he means how many optional ways to plug in as many LEDs as is legal and wanted. If you've seen that group or simular, they are NEVER going to see a trail or mud but they will light up Peachtree on a warm summer night as they boom their way down the road.

AND, there is no way for me to know what you guys will come up with in the months and years ahead. I'll just keep adding ways for you guys to add on what you want with ease.

Cool stuff @macleanflood !

- Patrick
 
I believe Slate is embracing the BYOD philosophy on their electric trucks. Not only to reduce costs but really catering to the demand of consumers.

Essentially the vehicle would have a Bluetooth connection and an app and various phone and tablet mounts.

-Mac

This is true - and its my understanding that no "device" whatsoever is needed. I certainly hope not - I don't want to "connect and go", I just want to "go"...
 
"LED plugs" could simply be accomplished by selling can bus relay blocks like Haltech sells. You'd just need to have flexible enough software to address the relay, have a function in the UI to add a button or a sequence to address said relay.

Part of why I want to ditch my stock PCM. With a Haltech I can integrate all my lights, lockers and accessories. Program my lockers to turn off or limit a speed to prevent damage.

-Mac
 
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"LED plugs" could simply be accomplished by selling can bus relay blocks like Haltech sells. You'd just need to have flexible enough software to address the relay, have a function in the UI to add a button or a sequence to address said relay.

Part of why I want to ditch my stock PCM. With a Haltech I can integrate all my lights, lockers and accessories. Program my lockers to turn off or limit a speed to prevent damage.

-Mac

RIGHT, those new programable PCMs are soooo cool!

I first saw the PDM28 (they have smaller ones also) by Hardwire Electronics a couple years ago. VERY cool. Expensive but probably worth it in the long run, and I do want to stop using standard fuse and relays.

Okay, so, for the not yet informed among us, let me explain.

The standard PCM - Power Control Modules, a bold Jeep acronym if ever there was one, is nothing more then where the bulk of the 12v power is branched to whatever, including to the Fuse Box, a baby PCM, if you will...

They are filed with relays and fuses up to 40amp. Boring....

The new PDMs are programable, don't freak out, that mostly means a graphic interface but, I digress.

So, what that means is, say you want to add a warning light when the AC turns on, or if the headlights turn on or any other trigger that you might want something to do something if on - these new programable PCMs let you do that.

Most allow simply logic, If AND NOR, etc.

They are also good at replacing the basic function of fuses and relays.

Here's the website of that one: https://www.hardwire-electronics.co.uk/pdm28.

Right now, for the most part, when we replace the stock PCMs it's still the old style of fuse and relay but, of course, a lot less in the engine bay. The down stream Fuse Box remains the same, it controls mostly lamps and stuff in the cab.

Great stuff, mostly used in the race sector, like, a lot. That might be why they are so expensive.

- Patrick
 
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