Cut off for well mannered, street-able TJ?

I have Ranchos on my ZJ, but not sure which ones. They've been on there awhile.
Was planning to get 9000s on the TJ for their adjustability but now kinda re-thinking that.

Anyone have any experience with the 9000s?
 
I'm another convert to the good shocks makes things better than they have any reason to be crowd, and I'm not even running my "good" shocks yet. My build has slowed down considerably the last couple years, but I did take steps to make the Jeep tolerable. I have tuned Fox performance series shock in their stock mounting locations. They are around 10" travel. The difference those made in my ride from Black Max shocks (and any other bolt in shock that I've tried...and I've tried most of them) can not be understated. I am also running the sway loc, Currie short arms, Factory rear track bar, Rock Jock 4" springs, and a Savvy Body lift. 17" Baja Boss MT's on Walker Evans Bead locks. The Jeep is calm and predictable. I can corner at speeds well over the posted limit. Body roll is controlled, bumps don't upset the chassis, and it feels connected. Even with my loose'ish steering box, I get proper feedback and know what is going on at the tires.

I think that is where the "drives like a sports car" comment comes from. Not because its as fast as a 911...but because the predictability and feedback are there. If you build, thinking about what you're doing and how you're accomplishing those goals, you can be amazed by what can be achieved.

Things like wheel spacing are more complex than just "does a wheel fit." Scrub radius is a thing and it pays to pay attention to it. Having shocks in the middle of their travel, setting up your steering properly, getting caster angle correct, etc. The hours you spend cycling suspension and taking careful measurements pays HUGE dividends in the final result.

The information is all here to build a REALLY good TJ. You just need to ask, listen, and be willing to put the time in. There is only one place I would trust to build a Jeep properly though...this is probably not a drop it off somewhere and expect it to be right situation. YOU need to put the time in, because someone billing by the hour won't take the time to do it until its correct.
 
Gosh, I forgot the point of this thread...What is the cutoff? For me, there is only the cut-off of wind resistance and speed limiter. I can drive as fast as I want on the highway (though I'm currently chasing a driveline vib unrelated to my build process). I'm not scared of potholes, bumps, rail crossings, etc. The Jeep doesn't wander or feel dangerous at 70, 75, 80, etc. I wish it had more power. I know some of that I can fix by regearing...I'm still at 4.88:1 and running the 42RLE, so I should grab some 5:32 gears...but its not the most pressing need right now.
 
I thought I was only one since the ranchos seem to get recommended frequently. I had the rs5000x and every bump changed the radio station. Got rid of them and currently running rock sport reds. I’m not fan of metal cloak but got this shocks dirt cheap and so far they have been great. Some would say to soft but I like the plush ride.
 
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For clarity, the entire blue line is the cutoff. If you go too big for how much time and/or money you're willing to spend to make it work right, you'll be in the red and the ride will suck.

Or said another way, the cutoff for how big you should go is a function of how much time and money you're willing to spend to make it right.
 
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That's good to know. Was that the rs5000x?

Yes, they were awful.

The 9000xl felt less harsh overall on setting 3, but they felt mushy on good roads (where you’d want more planted control), yet still pretty harsh when hitting a pot hole or driving on rougher roads (which was disappointing).
 
I thought I was only one since the ranchos seem to get recommended frequently. I had the rs5000x and every bump changed the radio station. Got rid of them and currently running rock sport reds. I’m not fan of metal cloak but got this shocks dirt cheap and so far they have been great. Some would say to soft but I like the plush ride.

Yea I tried them early on after seeing a particular member recommend them countless times. They were awful.
 
This has been a very helpful thread. It made me realize I really need to take a step back and reevaluate what I am doing and that no matter how much I have learned over the years I still need to learn a lot more.

At least you’re willing to learn. That’s the important part!
 
This has been a very helpful thread. It made me realize I really need to take a step back and reevaluate what I am doing and that no matter how much I have learned over the years I still need to learn a lot more.

What you are seeing in this thread is part of an overall build philosophy that focuses on the unified integration and refinement of the various components and systems that comprise the Jeep. The idea is to eliminate the bad behaviors that make up the typical Jeep experience as a wild, out of control vehicle that must be fought and tamed. Instead, the focus is on you operating the vehicle and you making it do what you want it to do.

If you are the type who cheers and high fives at wheels up in the air and out of control bouncing through obstacles, then this is not the pathway to follow.