Metalcloak 6-Pak shocks: A viable alternative to outboarding?

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Their rod end is cheap and wears out, especially when used in the horizontal position like that. I need to replace it with something of better quality. If MC gave us a decent rod end from the start, the cost would be nearly the same as JKS. So I feel like they played me a bit, especially when they try to tell me and others that our experience is unusual.
 
Their rod end is cheap and wears out, especially when used in the horizontal position like that. I need to replace it with something of better quality. If MC gave us a decent rod end from the start, the cost would be nearly the same as JKS. So I feel like they played me a bit, especially when they try to tell me and others that our experience is unusual.

Thanks, I'll keep an eye on mine.
 
I have MC control arms. Just recently took off old ones to resell. Not mentioning brands, gets to personal and ugly I guess.
 
I have MC control arms. Just recently took off old ones to resell. Not mentioning brands, gets to personal and ugly I guess.
I agree on that. But alwas remember its your money and your jeep. I will be getting MC arms in the future. I really want the long arm kit they have but i suck at welding. (I don't rock crawl so not worried about hanging up on them) and the 2k price tag hurts.

I just wish i had more money.
 
I have MC control arms. Just recently took off old ones to resell. Not mentioning brands, gets to personal and ugly I guess.

I agree on that. But alwas remember its your money and your jeep. I will be getting MC arms in the future. I really want the long arm kit they have but i suck at welding. (I don't rock crawl so not worried about hanging up on them) and the 2k price tag hurts.

I just wish i had more money.

Let's have more tech discussions on these other brands. More knowledge and better understandings help everyone make wise purchases.
 
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Let's have more tech discussions on these other brands. More knowledge and better understandings help everyone make wise purchases.

Hopefully we can get beyond the level of discussion akin to cave men grunting,

"Savvy good; Metalcloak bad; Rubicon Express like step in dinosaur dung."
 
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It's difficult to feel the loosness by just grabbing and shaking the joint. Do a dry steer test. Or take the weight of the Jeep off of that joint. Mine was developing play as early as 10k miles.

My Metalcloak track bar ate the joint also. Had about 7k on it when I noticed it starting to move around, when I called and talked to them about it I asked if this was a common problem. Their reply was mine wat the first they have heard of having an issue but they would gladly send me out a new joint.
 
.... Their reply was mine wat the first they have heard of having an issue but they would gladly send me out a new joint.

From my email exchange...


...Thank you for the email! Typically, we do see more miles out of the heim joint then what you are experiencing. With that said, I have seen them go bad much quicker as well. The problem is it can depend on how the Jeep is driven and what it is used for. Obviously the more off-road use the faster parts wear out. Either way we are sending out a replacement heim for the track bar today and you should have it delivered early next week. ....

I replied, letting him know that my Jeep is daily driven with slightly above average off road usage.
 
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Let's have more tech discussions on these other brands. More knowledge and better understandings help everyone make wise purchases.

I didnt want to go in depth on control arms and brands in a shock thread. Thats what I meant.
 
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From my email exchange...




I replied, letting him know that my Jeep is daily driven with slightly above average off road usage.
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. If you ask just about anyone about the older RE front trackbar and the durability of cheaper rod ends in that application, very few will say that it is a good idea. Vertical bolt, lots of travel which translates into the race moving across the face of the ball which carries dirt and contamination into the joint plus lower on the quality spectrum to begin with equals a relatively short life span.

Inversely, the much lower misalignment heavy duty FK JMXL series versions used with a horizontal bolt that only has a very small amount of wiping across the face will last just about indefinitely. Or they have in the hundreds I've used for track bars, tie rods and upper control arms in triangulated applications. But, they are 45-55 bucks each depending on where you buy them. In a tie rod, they are being used with 37-40" tires, lots of hard hydro assisted use and we almost never replace them. I say almost never because I don't specifically recall the last one I replaced over the last 10 years.

We use the same series on the ends of 1.75" hydro assist cylinders and I know I've never replaced one there. Same thing though, no lateral wiping across the face to carry dirt into the race. You also have no way to convince me to ever run one with a vertical bolt. Didn't work for RE, I see no way to make it work for anyone else.

If you run the bolt horizontal, you don't need the high misalignment, if you don't need that, then you can run the HD versions which have a larger shank diameter than the hole through the ball. Since the shank is larger, that increases the race size around the same size ball and they just don't wear out very much.
 
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my father in law is running these on his jk and loves them, His jeep rides as smooth as stock and can flex pretty good. The install wasn't bad either.

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Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. If you ask just about anyone about the older RE front trackbar and the durability of cheaper rod ends in that application, very few will say that it is a good idea. Vertical bolt, lots of travel which translates into the race moving across the face of the ball which carries dirt and contamination into the joint plus lower on the quality spectrum to begin with equals a relatively short life span.
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I do strongly suspect this is far more common with the MC front track bars than most realize and than MC is willing to admit. Especially when MC themselves are promoting long travel suspensions with both of their shock options. It just doesn't add up.
 
at jeep beach he scored a 980 on the CTI trailer way better than my 780
How much of that 15" of shock travel is he using? How much up, how much down? Do the springs stay seated at droop?