Benefits of mounting the spare tire inside?
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Right!? The standing tress are hardly ever an issue, it's the one's that decide to fall over in odd places that are a pain. And an axe is rarely enough.Living in the land of trees the chainsaw comes in handy
I've pondered mounting the spare to the roolcage. Upright behind the driver on the wheel well. Online with the rest of the tires. Build a cross tube brace an bolt it in sorta like those trail bags, except bolts instead of nylon straps. Seems like it keeps the back available for stuff and keeps the tailgate area to mount extra fuel cans and such without completely blocking my rear view. Stupid?? What do you guys think. Seems like it might be a win-win.
Coachgeo
TJ Enthusiast
my tire (35) is in bed.. presently not tied down with soft half cab. also eventually hard rear tub cover. Plan a cargo area above the rear tub/bed that extends beyond tailgate above bed/tub. Overall TJ lenght w/this cargo rack will end up about same as if spare tire was mounted on swing out carrier. aka.. much more cargo space.
WEIGHT RATIO is my concern- would it be better to have tire take up whole rear tub/bed area... or have it hang part way out beyond tailgate by removing tailgate? (half cab arrangement will prevents water from getting into front.)
this would solve one issue if this is good for front to back weight ratio.. Issue is.... the 35" spare will NOT slide out rear... even though tailgate is a wide enough opening (barely)..... cause tire hits the tailgate striker bolt*. with no tailgate can remove this bolt and leave out. Other wise have to raise tub cover and cargo area to tilt tire to one side to get past the bolt.
Though could consider keeping tool by tire to just screw out the striker bolt. If did this... Is there intentional built in adjustment in the striker bolt that would need to be maintained once best location is set.... or is it... screw it in fully and forget?
*https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p...4jfBlHLpLESWCdJm2kBoCUFYQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
WEIGHT RATIO is my concern- would it be better to have tire take up whole rear tub/bed area... or have it hang part way out beyond tailgate by removing tailgate? (half cab arrangement will prevents water from getting into front.)
this would solve one issue if this is good for front to back weight ratio.. Issue is.... the 35" spare will NOT slide out rear... even though tailgate is a wide enough opening (barely)..... cause tire hits the tailgate striker bolt*. with no tailgate can remove this bolt and leave out. Other wise have to raise tub cover and cargo area to tilt tire to one side to get past the bolt.
Though could consider keeping tool by tire to just screw out the striker bolt. If did this... Is there intentional built in adjustment in the striker bolt that would need to be maintained once best location is set.... or is it... screw it in fully and forget?
*https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p...4jfBlHLpLESWCdJm2kBoCUFYQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
Coachgeo
TJ Enthusiast
old thread.... even on new threads.... there is very little conversation in here it seems. For future readers who may find this thread.. My concern with this idea would be left to right weight ratio.... especially if you wheel without a co-pilot. ...... that said.... it could be an advantage cause if your rolled sidways and you mount it high enough the tire could act as a Roll over Protection for your cranium. (though higher mount throws off center of gravity making it easier to roll in the first place. )
and I thought kenosha wiz six's posts were a chore to get through... my head hurts
If I build my fuel cell, I'm thinking more and more about moving the spare into the bed as part of the larger project.
Coachgeo
TJ Enthusiast
details matter in the question... cause they affect the weight ratio....
if you cant comprehend the various factors the details bring out... then don't reply?
Weight between axles adds to both axles. Weight outside of the axles adds weight to the nearest and takes weight off the opposite end. So yeah, moving a 90lb spare from 2 feet behind the rear axle to on top of it would be an improvement.
No go for me though, I actually use my back seat. And the weather isn't a concern because I do a 5 tire rotation so it's getting the same exposure as the other 4.
No go for me though, I actually use my back seat. And the weather isn't a concern because I do a 5 tire rotation so it's getting the same exposure as the other 4.
Coachgeo
TJ Enthusiast
agree... what do not know (and Ive searched for Fr/Bk ratio specs at OEM) is if in the TJ design it was attempted to achieve a targeted weight balance via tire hanging off end of tail gate... thus if that is the case then the proposed idea of mounting the tire part way out the tailgate; when laying in the bed, may help bring it back toward OEM intentions.
I doubt it was much of a factor/consideration with regard to weight distribution. Jeep has stayed with the rear mounted spare for aesthetics and easy access. Heck, even for nostalgias sake. They’ve been doing it for half a century.
I made up for the offset in weight by adding a bumper and a winch to the front end so I think I am balanced.
Coachgeo
TJ Enthusiast
good to know... what is your set up. 4cyl or 6cyl? winch in front? Is your 50/50 including the load in the back? looks like a cargo tray and some items? cant really tell?
6cyl, winch, small bumpers, aluminum skids, no rear seat, small tool box behind the front seats, small cargo rack with blankets.
Coachgeo
TJ Enthusiast
heavy engine is already in front... driver is central... tire at rear behind axle might be what brings it back to 50/50... till you add bumper and winch in front.. then your back to nose heavy.... but in offroading... say little beyond mild offroading.. is nose heavy better? or 50/50 better?I made up for the offset in weight by adding a bumper and a winch to the front end so I think I am balanced.
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It’s nice not dragging to spare on rocks on steep climbs as well. We have plenty of situations where spares get in the way out here.
Lighter is better anywhere you can get it.
That's been a problem on mine even with the ExoGate and raised carrier.