Right!? The standing tress are hardly ever an issue, it's the one's that decide to fall over in odd places that are a pain. And an axe is rarely enough.Living in the land of trees the chainsaw comes in handy
old thread.... even on new threads.... there is very little conversation in here it seems. For future readers who may find this thread.. My concern with this idea would be left to right weight ratio.... especially if you wheel without a co-pilot. ...... that said.... it could be an advantage cause if your rolled sidways and you mount it high enough the tire could act as a Roll over Protection for your cranium. (though higher mount throws off center of gravity making it easier to roll in the first place. )I've pondered mounting the spare to the roolcage. Upright behind the driver on the wheel well. Online with the rest of the tires. Build a cross tube brace an bolt it in sorta like those trail bags, except bolts instead of nylon straps. Seems like it keeps the back available for stuff and keeps the tailgate area to mount extra fuel cans and such without completely blocking my rear view. Stupid?? What do you guys think. Seems like it might be a win-win.
Some here always say to never wheel alone. Always go with a passenger.old thread.... even on new threads.... there is very little conversation in here it seems. For future readers who may find this thread.. My concern with this idea would be left to right weight ratio.... especially if you wheel without a co-pilot. ...... that said.... it could be an advantage cause if your rolled sidways and you mount it high enough the tire could act as a Roll over Protection for your cranium. (though higher mount throws off center of gravity making it easier to roll in the first place. )
Some here always say to never wheel alone. Always go with a pass
details matter in the question... cause they affect the weight ratio....and I thought kenosha wiz six's posts were a chore to get through... my head hurts....
agree... what do not know (and Ive searched for Fr/Bk ratio specs at OEM) is if in the TJ design it was attempted to achieve a targeted weight balance via tire hanging off end of tail gate... thus if that is the case then the proposed idea of mounting the tire part way out the tailgate; when laying in the bed, may help bring it back toward OEM intentions.Weight between axles adds to both axles. Weight outside of the axles adds weight to the nearest and takes weight off the opposite end. So yeah, moving a 90lb spare from 2 feet behind the rear axle to on top of it would be an improvement.
No go for me though, I actually use my back seat. And the weather isn't a concern because I do a 5 tire rotation so it's getting the same exposure as the other 4.
I doubt it was much of a factor/consideration with regard to weight distribution. Jeep has stayed with the rear mounted spare for aesthetics and easy access. Heck, even for nostalgias sake. They’ve been doing it for half a century.agree... what do not know (and Ive searched for Fr/Bk ratio specs at OEM) is if in the TJ design it was attempted to achieve a targeted weight balance via tire hanging off end of tail gate... thus if that is the case then the proposed idea of mounting the tire part way out the tailgate; when laying in the bed, may help bring it back toward OEM intentions.
The way mine is set up now, the weight distribution is about 50/50.agree... what do not know (and Ive searched for Fr/Bk ratio specs at OEM) is if in the TJ design it was attempted to achieve a targeted weight balance via tire hanging off end of tail gate... thus if that is the case then the proposed idea of mounting the tire part way out the tailgate; when laying in the bed, may help bring it back toward OEM intentions.
good to know... what is your set up. 4cyl or 6cyl? winch in front? Is your 50/50 including the load in the back? looks like a cargo tray and some items? cant really tell?The way mine is set up now, the weight distribution is about 50/50.
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6cyl, winch, small bumpers, aluminum skids, no rear seat, small tool box behind the front seats, small cargo rack with blankets.good to know... what is your set up. 4cyl or 6cyl? winch in front? Is your 50/50 including the load in the back? looks like a cargo tray and some items? cant really tell?
heavy engine is already in front... driver is central... tire at rear behind axle might be what brings it back to 50/50... till you add bumper and winch in front.. then your back to nose heavy.... but in offroading... say little beyond mild offroading.. is nose heavy better? or 50/50 better?I made up for the offset in weight by adding a bumper and a winch to the front end so I think I am balanced.
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Lighter is better anywhere you can get it.heavy engine is already in front... driver is central... tire at rear behind axle might be what brings it back to 50/50... till you add bumper and winch in front.. then your back to nose heavy.... but in offroading... say little beyond mild offroading.. is nose heavy better? or 50/50 better?
That's been a problem on mine even with the ExoGate and raised carrier.It’s nice not dragging to spare on rocks on steep climbs as well. We have plenty of situations where spares get in the way out here.