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Got the finalized version installed today. It centered up the axle shafts perfectly so I’m happy with the initial install. Hope to go wheeling on Wednesday if my body allows it.

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Updated feedback as you go along is appreciated 😎
So far they have been great. I only have about 30 miles or so With them on the pavement. Seems nice and tight. No weird or unwanted effects with them at all so far. I also got out for a quick trail ride with them but nothing extreme. Again can’t even tell they are installed. So only a bit of time will tell if they last longer than the normal ball joints do for me.
 
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From what I can see on their website, these things look pretty simple in terms of design (unless I am missing something). So that begs the question, why are they so expensive?
 

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You charge what people will pay.

Shit, I guess so.

I'm looking at the price thinking to myself that I could buy enough ball joints to probably last me years for the cost of a set of these.

I'm curious though if Blaine were to have his machine shop design something identical, would they end up costing as much as these things, or would they be cheaper by a lot?

I don't know anything about manufacturing, so I'm trying to understand if they're charging a lot simply because they can, or if there is a huge cost in having them manufactured in the first place.
 

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I asked Dynatrac why they dont offer their balljoints for the TJ. Their response was that they were not aware of TJ's having ball joint problems. I think i agree with them. Their BJs are extremely nice but the cost of them is many sets of spicers. If the average guy on 35's running hard trails can get multiple years out of a set of spicers, why spend $5-600 on a set of BJs?

The main reason i asked Dynatrac was i seem to believe the only difference between JK and TJ balljoints is one of the tapers is different.
 

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I would say that's accurate. It seems that most of the people I talk to who are running 35s on the Spicer ball joints are getting a few years out of them or more, then why bother to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Especially when the "solution" could be over $500.
 

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I would say that's accurate. It seems that most of the people I talk to who are running 35s on the Spicer ball joints are getting a few years out of them or more, then why bother to solve a problem that doesn't exist. Especially when the "solution" could be over $500.
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Isn’t significant difference but price increased I want to say $25 or bit more per set 01Nov. From rest of discussion on FB post is the quality of materials used and having entire kit made in USA that drives cost. Not that any of that changes fact you can buy 4 set spicer joints for roughly same cost. I’ll still consider them but can see as valid reason not to.


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In other words, this is the worst possible direction to run a spherical bearing under load.
My first thought seeing a setup like that was "that's an odd way to run a spherical ball" and I guess I'm not the only one.

But if it's fixing a problem for the guys running huge tires, then go for it. Seems like a mighty expensive fix though.
 

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But if it's fixing a problem for the guys running huge tires, then go for it. Seems like a mighty expensive fix though.

I'm still not clear on what these BJs are supposed to fix. Isn't yoke stretch the unsolvable problem with huge tires on stock axles? If we agree that 35s are the reasonable limit to stock axles and that 35s aren't huge, what are these for?
 
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I’m giving them a shot because I was going through at least 2 sets of spicer joints a year. I know I shouldn’t run 37” tires on this front axle Due to the oysters but so far my ball joints have been the weak spot. Hoping these help me. My rear Axle is a Rock jock 60 so it’s fine with the 37”. Either way they will be faster to rebuild than pressing in ball joints. I’m hoping this aftermarket high pinion axle housing I’ve got will last for at least another year or two as I build a new home. Them I can do the TJ6 stretch and put in the ORI’s and the new 609 front axle I already have the housing for. Still saving for two more ORI’s and the rest of the parts for the front axle anyway. Then I’ll throw it and a shaved 14 bolt in it and 40” or 42” tires and not look back
 

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I'm still not clear on what these BJs are supposed to fix. Isn't yoke stretch the unsolvable problem with huge tires on stock axles? If we agree that 35s are the reasonable limit to stock axles and that 35s aren't huge, what are these for?
These are for 37's.
 

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My first thought seeing a setup like that was "that's an odd way to run a spherical ball" and I guess I'm not the only one.

But if it's fixing a problem for the guys running huge tires, then go for it. Seems like a mighty expensive fix though.
Just for reference. Toyota IFS guys been running them like this for a long time. I had these in my Taco and jumped it and beat the ever loving piss out of iit with fox suspension on fire roads, never had an issue. lasted like 5 years before rust got to it. Newer ones used stainless balls. Mind you it has WAAAAAY bigger moment arm than Dana 44 C's.

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