Dave Kishpaugh's (Jeep West) geometry correction brackets are now available

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bobthetj03 said:
How much taller are the upper brackets compared to the stock brackets with a JKS angled relocation bracket for the TB? I know he mentioned a 1" BL needed to clear the tub and maintain 2" bump extensions, but was curious if I could get away with my 1/2" BL. I already have 2" bumps in the rear for the TB so it doesn't hit the rear cross member.
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Ask Dave. He can probably come up with a solution. I think the upper axle mount is raised 2-5/8”. Here is a photo for reference.

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Gollywomper said:
Your rig? Ha that’s great. What do you think of the results? Any other work done at the same time?
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Dave did it when I was home in January, no other work was done.

I really like the GC. I can't comment on the off road differences, but it handles much better on the road. I'm not a fan of the OME Nitros, and I think I'm going to try some different shocks before the year is over.
 
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Gollywomper said:
Because it has been repeated so many times that there is nothing wrong with short arms on 4” lift. It works but there is a lot wrong with it. People start looking elsewhere for improvement. Shocks is the next thing. By the time you get a off the shelf shock soft enough for a decent ride it starts to show the poor handling from the bad geometry created by the lift. This is maybe why tuned shocks have such a big improvement.
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Fargo said:
I insert myself in this discussion because I think my needs are more the direction that Dave is going. He is trying to improve on road performance at the same time as offroad performance is improved. Its a delicate balance. Not everyone is looking for the ultimate rock crawler. Not everyone needs a midarm. Its good to have two different options for 2 different buyers and sets of needs. Due to lack of welding skills, I may never be able to install a set of Daves brackets, but I am glad he is out there looking for different ways to improve our Jeeps.
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This is exactly what I'm planning to do when I switch over to 4" coils; add the geo correction bracket and the Savvy tuned shocks. I will then work with the rig and decide what, if anything, I want to do with the front. What I'm trying to do is improve the AS, get the rear wheel traveling up and down rather than arc so I can center it in the wheel well and clear the GTS, and get a better overall ride, especially onroad, but also to a degree offroad. Any changes to the front later will be directed primarily toward offroad improvement, which is what I think the front midarm helps with, including in the climb challenge between jjvw and starkey.
 
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JMT said:
This is exactly what I'm planning to do when I switch over to 4" coils; add the geo correction bracket and the Savvy tuned shocks. I will then work with the rig and decide what, if anything, I want to do with the front. What I'm trying to do is improve the AS, get the rear wheel traveling up and down rather than arc so I can center it in the wheel well and clear the GTS, and get a better overall ride, especially onroad, but also to a degree offroad. Any changes to the front later will be directed primarily toward offroad improvement, which is what I think the front midarm helps with, including in the climb challenge between jjvw and starkey.
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youre gonna love those savvy foxs. Hands down my favorite. Granted ive only been able to experience a handful of off shelf shocks, I think the savvy foxs are by far the best IMO
 
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DylanM345 said:
youre gonna love those savvy foxs. Hands down my favorite. Granted ive only been able to experience a handful of off shelf shocks, I think the savvy foxs are by far the best IMO
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All I've tried are Bilstein 5100's and Rancho 5000X, and so far Bilsten 5100 < Rancho 5000X, so I'm hoping Rancho 5000X < Savvy Valved Fox's 😁
 
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bobthetj03 said:
How much taller are the upper brackets compared to the stock brackets with a JKS angled relocation bracket for the TB? I know he mentioned a 1" BL needed to clear the tub and maintain 2" bump extensions, but was curious if I could get away with my 1/2" BL. I already have 2" bumps in the rear for the TB so it doesn't hit the rear cross member.
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Daves brackets only require two inch bumpstop extension. The Nth bracket I have need a one inch BL or three inch of bumpstop.
 
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JMT said:
.... Any changes to the front later will be directed primarily toward offroad improvement, which is what I think the front midarm helps with, including in the climb challenge between jjvw and starkey.
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How would a parallel 3 link front prevent the rear from hopping?
 
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A "longer arm" that also has good geometry is going to climb with more calmness than a similarly lifted short arm. It will also put more weight on the front end during a climb than a typical long arm kit because the rear doesn't sink under load. All of that translates into improved traction and stability.
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I think the importance of the front geometry isn’t to be diminished. I wonder why you changed your mind from this post to now.
 
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BuildBreakRepeat said:
I think the importance of the front geometry isn’t to be diminished.
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@JMT can explain how a front 3 link makes the rear not hop. I won't bother with any of it because I'm not a scientist nor am I am engineer. 😂
 
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Better geometry in the front, no doubt plays a role. How much of a role in wheel hop? I have no idea. In the climb itself I would think it does.
 
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