Drop pitman and crossover steering?

[Chris]

Tie-rod roll or heim flop creates that dead spot that makes steering systems like that poor for our knuckles. Jk and JL run different knuckles.

Yep, you could make the crossover setup work on a TJ I'm sure, but the amount of cost, time, and effort you'd put into doing it right would far outweigh any gains. This is what I've gathered from the research I've done at least.

I think this is why most people don't bother with this sort of stuff unless they're running aftermarket axles (i.e. RockJocks).

 

[jjvw]

This is tie rod roll on an inverted T steering link.


The dead spot is the lack of responsiveness as the steering takes up the slack in between all the moving joints. Our factory inverse Y link has less of this. Crossover where the drag link is attached to the knuckle should have even less slop.

Then there is the question of what to do with the track bar anytime the drag link is moved from it's factory orientation.

 

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This is tie rod roll on an inverted T steering link.


The dead spot is the lack of responsiveness as the steering takes up the slack in between all the moving joints. Our factory inverse Y link has less of this. Crossover where the drag link is attached to the knuckle should have even less slop.

Then there is the question of what to do with the track bar anytime the drag link is moved from it's factory orientation.

Crossover isn’t actually a bad steering setup, but like you said the track bar would need to be adjusted accordingly. Most giant to do that and get bumpsteer.

 

[jjvw]

Crossover isn’t actually a bad steering setup, but like you said the track bar would need to be adjusted accordingly. Most giant to do that and get bumpsteer.

Crossover done well is better than what we got from the factory. As far as I know, crossover done well is very difficult on our factory width axles.

 

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Crossover done well is better than what we got from the factory. As far as I know, crossover done well is very difficult on our factory width axles.

Along with the fact that most crossover setups on the market for our jeeps use a setup of 4 heims

 

[kmas0n]

but the amount of cost, time, and effort you'd put into doing it right would far outweigh any gains.

How come every time i ask about something interesting on this forum, someone threatens me with a good time.

 

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How come every time i ask about something interesting on this forum, someone threatens me with a good time.

In the same way I like to experiment and take on a challenge. I was just out in your town, I should’ve said hi!

 

[jjvw]

Along with the fact that most crossover setups on the market for our jeeps use a setup of 4 heims

Use nicer heims than Metalcloak.

 

[kmas0n]

In the same way I like to experiment and take on a challenge. I was just out in your town, I should’ve said hi!

For sure! always happy to meet a fellow jeeper

 

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Use nicer heims than Metalcloak.

FK all the way my old prerunner builds had 20 of them.

 

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For sure! always happy to meet a fellow jeeper

Pink jeeps everywhere and no waves but beautiful place!

 

[kmas0n]

This is tie rod roll on an inverted T steering link.

The Jeep in this video has an inverted T setup. I understand why there is slop with no direct link to the knuckle. I guess I was asking about the setup that the pitman arm has a direct link to the passenger side knuckle, then there is a separate link that connects the passenger side knuckle to the driver side knuckle. What's that called?

 

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The Jeep in this video has an inverted T setup. I understand why there is slop with no direct link to the knuckle. I guess I was asking about the setup that the pitman arm has a direct link to the passenger side knuckle, then there is a separate link that connects the passenger side knuckle to the driver side knuckle. What's that called?

Crossover, there are many ways to set it up. Crossover is a very nice steering system, but it doesn't play well with stock width axles and trying to get the trackbar to eliminate bump steer.

 

[toximus]

If you can keep the stock steering, keep it! A lot of people have bad steering when they alter it and very few understand how to make it good. A lot goes into making steering work well.