I wish she had that set up...just a basic solid set up
Gee. Just hit me. Wish I had it.
New to me TJ with issues
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I wish she had that set up...just a basic solid set up
Gee. Just hit me. Wish I had it.
It’s getting better 45 mph on the way to the shop yesterday.. Still sketchy as hell..
Good evening
We got the jeep back home this evening. The bracket is straight and it drives much better. I feel like there’s light at the end of the tunnel
.I have looked at many front track bars and there more I look the more confused I get. Please point me to an affordable track bar that will work. The rear TB looks to be stock.
It’s getting better 45 mph on the way to the shop yesterday.. Still sketchy as hell..
Good evening
We got the jeep back home this evening. The bracket is straight and it drives much better. I feel like there’s light at the end of the tunnel
I have looked at many front track bars and there more I look the more confused I get. Please point me to an affordable track bar that will work. The rear TB looks to be stock.
I think @AndyG has the Part number.
OK you’re on the right track and you’re thinking right not expecting a miracle
If you keep going 55 will feel like
45 does the. 65 will feel like 55 and pretty soon you’re driving as fast as you’re comfortable and safe-
Right this second I don’t know who sells the best rear track bar- What I look for in a track bar that wont be wheeled hard is can I replace the ends with over-the-counter parts-
Also at your lift height you may have or may need a relocation bracket to make everything clear in the rear
On the front you can get one from rough country that is $129 right now and it will be rebuild a bowl with parts store Moog bushings - a stock TJ bushing at the axle and an ES3096L at the frame- That is the only track bar for the most part that I know of you can do that with- It has a good bend to make everything clear and it’s on the front of John’s jeep
What is the only one they sell that price for a listed TJ so it should stand out and you can post it and we can let you know
I would probably not be afraid of their rear track bar - typically you’re going to be replacing the bushings in their track bars within a year or two because they don’t put good quality bushings in the components in my opinion-
The rear doesn’t work as hard as the front because it’s not fighting the force steering puts on one - Every time you turn the wheel the track bar is engaged to stabilize the axle regardless of the speed- as well as when the axle moves vertically
If you keep going 55 will feel like
45 does the. 65 will feel like 55 and pretty soon you’re driving as fast as you’re comfortable and safe-
Right this second I don’t know who sells the best rear track bar- What I look for in a track bar that wont be wheeled hard is can I replace the ends with over-the-counter parts-
Also at your lift height you may have or may need a relocation bracket to make everything clear in the rear
On the front you can get one from rough country that is $129 right now and it will be rebuild a bowl with parts store Moog bushings - a stock TJ bushing at the axle and an ES3096L at the frame- That is the only track bar for the most part that I know of you can do that with- It has a good bend to make everything clear and it’s on the front of John’s jeep
What is the only one they sell that price for a listed TJ so it should stand out and you can post it and we can let you know
I would probably not be afraid of their rear track bar - typically you’re going to be replacing the bushings in their track bars within a year or two because they don’t put good quality bushings in the components in my opinion-
The rear doesn’t work as hard as the front because it’s not fighting the force steering puts on one - Every time you turn the wheel the track bar is engaged to stabilize the axle regardless of the speed- as well as when the axle moves vertically
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Here you go-You should be able to go back to your original mount hole and a 10 mm bolt or you can put in a moog K 7252 bushing in the track bar at the axle and run the bigger boat since your mount is drilled if both holes are drilled out- That second hole was a means of centering the
axle to
axle to
Thanks so much guys
I’m ordering the track bars now.
Just remember most track bars are going to come with a 10 mm sized bushing and yours appears to be drilled out so you may have to press the bushing out of the track bar in step the bushing up - And I’m telling you wrong on the K 7252 it has a 14 mm inside diameter
There is a bushing that you guys use that is 12 mm and I think it comes out of a JK
This is all of the axle end
I went back and looked at your picture and it looks like you can use your original hole you’re just gonna have to come up with a 10 mm bolt and get a good grade 8 because there is some stress on these
OK thanks for that information because I’ve probably been staring at it scratching my head lol. Also I have another question, do I need to replace the track bar with it jacked up wheels off the ground or wheels on the ground?
Well the goal is for the axles to be centered- You can start with measuring from bolt 2 bolt and see if your axles are centered with the frame by measuring from the frame to the wheel or to the tire and you can get a pretty accurate measurement
A good example is if the bar is 32 inches and the wheels are a half inch off one side of the other you’re going to need to either shorten or lengthen the track bar accordingly
I would establish this with the vehicle on the ground
Then I would set the bar at the length I need an install it in whatever fashion that I can get it done and then drive the Jeep and bouncing up and down some and come back and check the measurements
At some point you’re going to need to cycle things by moving the suspension up and down and making sure everything clears especially in the back
Ok, thanks. The bars will be here Saturday. Tomorrow I will swap the pitman arm and do the sway bar bushings. Sadly I’m at my real job today
Ok, thanks. The bars will be here Saturday. Tomorrow I will swap the pitman arm and do the sway bar bushings. Sadly I’m at my real job today
I love the way you’re going after it-
One of the few things from Rough Country that works well. I put it on my son's Jeep. It's worked well.
I like it because its rebuildable with off the shelf components
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You can't get a 10mm bolt in grade 8. You can get it in 5.8, 8.8, 10.9 or 12.9.
We have a great family owed Napa here. He stocks grade 8 bolts. I’ll go see them tomorrow .
Thank you! I just hope it’s fixed before I go broke
That was me. Having had jeeps before, I just wanted to have fun in mine- I had not had a TJ before and was amazed at how many bushings and arms under it it had-
A fair statement is it is perplexing if you haven’t built one before-
Remember-
-You need good connections
- You need caster
- all needs to clear
Keep at it
Andy
IOwnCalculus
TJ Enthusiast
You're missing the point. Grade 8 applies only to SAE fasteners. Metric are rated in the grades Andy mentioned, with a metric 8.8 being roughly equal to SAE grade 5. Metric 10.9 is roughly equal to SAE grade 8.
Sway Bar centered and bushings changed, clamps added. That was a job, had to move the winch. Back bracket bolts wouldn’t come out all the way (rusted, old and bent), so getting the new bushings in was a trick.
Pitman arm is back stock. Steering wheels adjusted. Track bar didn’t show up, USPS still has it
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Started out almost 2” and we are now 3/16 from center, needs to go toward the passenger side. Please advise me how to get that 3/16? I have an alignment appt also.
Pitman arm is back stock. Steering wheels adjusted. Track bar didn’t show up, USPS still has it
.Started out almost 2” and we are now 3/16 from center, needs to go toward the passenger side. Please advise me how to get that 3/16? I have an alignment appt also.
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Sway Bar centered and bushings changed, clamps added. That was a job, had to move the winch. Back bracket bolts wouldn’t come out all the way (rusted, old and bent), so getting the new bushings in was a trick.
Pitman arm is back stock. Steering wheels adjusted. Track bar didn’t show up, USPS still has it
Started out almost 2” and we are now 3/16 from center, needs to go toward the passenger side. Please advise me how to get that 3/16? I have an alignment appt also.
I would not worry about it being more centered ‘til you get the new track bat on and center the axle- the sway bar will find its on center typically after that- if it wont hold center I once got a clamshell clamp and locked one in.
The sway bar doesn’t have to be perfectly centered to do it’s job.