Never ordered from here but this was shared on another forum.
https://www.jerseydiscounttool.com/product-page/m12-fuel-1-4-right-angle-die-grinder-bare-tool
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Never ordered from here but this was shared on another forum.
https://www.jerseydiscounttool.com/product-page/m12-fuel-1-4-right-angle-die-grinder-bare-tool
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Just got this notification from harbor freight, ends tomorrow
Harbor Freight: REMINDER: 25% off any single item! Show your coupon code 92059525025387072 at the store register by 5/05. https://hft.tools/kTc6hOh1
Harbor Freight: REMINDER: 25% off any single item! Show your coupon code 92059525025387072 at the store register by 5/05. https://hft.tools/kTc6hOh1
I have 2 $10.00 off coupons that work with any other coupons....... hmm.
We have a HF opening in town in Jun. Yeah! No more driving 15 miles to the Barrio to shop.
In true Amz fashion, had to order them twice as the first sets that showed were knock-offs courtesy of some industrious Chinese fellows.
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In true Amz fashion, had to order them twice as the first sets that showed were knock-offs courtesy of some industrious Chinese fellows.
I picked up one of these a few years back and stuck some magnets on the back so it lives on the side of the toolbox:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C74VFGT9?tag=wranglerorg-20
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In true Amz fashion, had to order them twice as the first sets that showed were knock-offs courtesy of some industrious Chinese fellows.
I've often wondered if Amazon knowingly allows knock offs. They will refund without question, but their profits outweigh the need for quality control.
Go look up TJ swaybar and you will see 2 knockoffs of the AntiRock for every one of the real thing.
Ebay is the same way.
And yet, we give Harbor Freight a pass even though they started with shit copies of stellar products sold for pennies on the dollar. Are we just hoping that the Rock Jock copies will eventually get good enough to own even though every single sale of one fucks Rock Jock over hard?
Nope its not my fault Milwaukee sent stuff to China to have it made for them and the Chinese to copy.
Milwaukee is no longer owned by Milwaukee just like everyone else they sold out.
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In true Amz fashion, had to order them twice as the first sets that showed were knock-offs courtesy of some industrious Chinese fellows.
Amazon is so unpredictable these days, it's insane. Sometimes it's good sometimes it's bad. After being on the losing end of that situation numerous times, I just had things fall in my favor for the first time a couple weeks ago when trying to solve my misfire.
I wanted to try a coil rail to see if that was my issue, but auto parts stores don't allow returns. So, I ordered a TRQ from Amazon that I intended to return if it didn't work, and even if it DID fix my problem, I'd return it for a different brand.
Well, a HUGE box arrived. Turns out, they sent 3 (but only charged for one). I used one (it fixed my problem), returned one, kept one as a spare. Ultimately fixed my misfire for free, and have a spare coil rail on the shelf. I wouldn't have handled it this way with a small retailer, but this was sold and shipped by Amazon, so I don't feel guilty in the slightest about taking advantage of their lazy mistakes.
The fact that you own so much stuff from Harbor Freight says that isn't a tiny bit true. Milwaukee is exactly one of the reasons I tell folks all the time that country of origin is not the tiniest indicator of quality. I may have a few Milwaukee tools out of 100's I own that don't perform as well as I'd like, not one iota of that is due to less than stellar quality.
To clarify, you created a word salad to justify your position as a stake holder in Harbor Freight. Milwaukee did not send shit to China to get copied. They were purchased by Techtronic in 2005.
They sell because we as consumers demand lower prices. It is a badge of honor to tell everyone how little you spent for something that looks like what used to be a good product.
I own more Dewalt, Mac, Snap-on and Matco than I do HF, and have owned them for years.
I own HF now because it's affordable for my limited income and they preform for what I need.
If I was still turning wrenches for a living, I would still be buying off the tool truck.
The other component in the Harbor Freight vs. Milwaukee equation is innovation/R&D and the associated costs. I could name you 10 innovations Milwaukee introduced into the market within minutes. I can't do that with Harbor Freight. One reason Harbor Freight can sell at lower prices is they have very low development costs. They simply purchase existing products, reverse-engineer them, and produce them.
Having worked in the R&D world for decades, I can tell you that those costs can be extraordinary. If we give too much patronage to Harbor Freight, pretty soon Milwaukee's no longer profitable, and all that cool innovation will stop. Also, reverse-engineering often times misses lessons learned in the R&D process, resulting in products that look similar, but either don't perform as well or aren't as durable.
At the scale of a company like Milwaukee, this problem would take a long time to kill the company. However, for all our favorite TJ parts makers, this problem can be devastating. Imagine putting your blood, sweat, tears, and tooling costs into a cool new product that took a year (or more) to bring to market, only to have some folks in China buy one, quickly "replicate" it, and sell it for such a low price that you can no longer sell yours because you'll lose money. I've heard Mr. Blaine lament about this more than once, and for good reason. It's devastating and de-motivating...
On this forum, we do a pretty good job of supporting these niche TJ parts makers, but when it comes to big companies like Milwaukee, we don't seem to give the same deference. Makes one ponder.
Having worked in the R&D world for decades, I can tell you that those costs can be extraordinary. If we give too much patronage to Harbor Freight, pretty soon Milwaukee's no longer profitable, and all that cool innovation will stop. Also, reverse-engineering often times misses lessons learned in the R&D process, resulting in products that look similar, but either don't perform as well or aren't as durable.
At the scale of a company like Milwaukee, this problem would take a long time to kill the company. However, for all our favorite TJ parts makers, this problem can be devastating. Imagine putting your blood, sweat, tears, and tooling costs into a cool new product that took a year (or more) to bring to market, only to have some folks in China buy one, quickly "replicate" it, and sell it for such a low price that you can no longer sell yours because you'll lose money. I've heard Mr. Blaine lament about this more than once, and for good reason. It's devastating and de-motivating...
On this forum, we do a pretty good job of supporting these niche TJ parts makers, but when it comes to big companies like Milwaukee, we don't seem to give the same deference. Makes one ponder.
In other words, you're shopping price first, quality second, performance third. You need to be less defensive about this. I'll pick on you when you start slamming a good company to justify your position. If your position is just economic hardship and the need to get work done, that's fine, we've all done it. But when I had to do it, I didn't justify it by saying the good stuff sucked.
Snap-on et al should have stormed HF with enough legal bullshit to end their pitiful existence when they first started. I walked into one decades ago and was completely astounded that they weren't even a tiny bit shy about making their shitty screwdrivers look just like Snap-on.
Napster effect.
I have that exact gauge in my garage, decent quality and it's got good coverage. However, if you don't have a nut or bolt to take to the gauge, it doesn't help. The idea with these is that you can check a hole or stud on the vehicle (or wherever). Some have remarked the connecting cable can make it difficult to use in this way and end up cutting them apart (which may happen).
Well, they sure as hell don't vet their vendors beforehand, so I'd say they certainly bear some guilt. I tend to look at the "ships from" and "sold by" as well as the brand/product carefully when buying. I had bookmarked these previously and didn't verify, made the mistake of adding to my cart from wishlist and that's how the pricks slipped it in on me. As soon as I saw the tracking was coming direct from the People's Republic, I knew I'd been had and just had to wait the 1.5 weeks for the bogus good to show.
I did file for a return/refund and the vendor did communicate with me, apologizing for things not being to my specifications (as in, the listed item) and immediately informing me there was no need to send them back and they'd be happy to refund half of my money. Funny/odd thing is, I replied stating I was only interested the Thread Checker brand items I ordered and would await a full refund as well as a prepaid RMA shipping label to send the knock-offs back (presumably to China). Within 24 hours I got an email stating that my "Return was enroute." and a full refund was being issued. They didn't even want their crap back, I assume the RMA would have blown the profit/loss balance.
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Yes when I had to take early retirement to take care of Dad, it put the brakes on my spending, didn’t mean to come across as slamming anything.
You know from past conversations, I value your opinion.
This happened to me with the coil rail too. It was a first for me. Except out of $127 I paid for the rail, they only offered a $24 refund for me to keep the rail anyway (not knowing I actually had 3 instead of the 1 I ordered). I mean, i guess I could have kept all 3 for a total of $103, but I didn't need 3
. I thought it odd of them to essentially say "oh, sorry you don't like/want/can't use what we sent you. Can we give you just a fraction of your money back, and leave you without what you really need, and you can just pretend everything is OK?"
I ordered a ear wax vacuum to clean my hearing aids on 4/22. I ordered it from a local company 70 miles away same price as other venders, free shipping and a local bussiness. They sent it out the same day UPS. The next day UPS listed it as delivered but they just turned it over to USPS for final delivery. USPS tracking number showed no package received for 5 days then receiving it and it bounced between postal facilities before showing it being held in LA for postage due. After 2 weeks of this BS I called the vendor and they looked things up from their end. They acknowledged the problem and sent out a new shipment FedEx overnight that day. Now that’s customer service from a small business. I bet shipping FedEx really ate up any profit on my $260 order.
I just checked USPS tracking and it still shows the original shipment as being held up for postage due as of 4/28.
I just checked USPS tracking and it still shows the original shipment as being held up for postage due as of 4/28.
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