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  1. I'm guessing there's a mental health issue at work there, so while it's difficult to understand how someone would end up in the kybo, poor mental health can drive a person to do some pretty bizarre stuff.
  2. I'm interested to hear from the firefighters on the forum about the conduct of those firefighters. It seems to me that they were very standoffish and lacked empathy. Instead of putting on a hazmat suit, getting in there, and cutting the feller out, they stood there for a long time and argued with him to get him to come out on his own. It's not like that plastic tank is an impenetrable fortress. In less than half the time they spent arguing, they could have cut the top of the tank completely off. Maybe the guy was so argumentative/out of his mind that getting him to sit still while doing that much cutting was a risk? Not being there, and not being in that line of work, I wonder if what the firefighters did is considered normal/proper conduct?
 
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  1. I'm guessing there's a mental health issue at work there, so while it's difficult to understand how someone would end up in the kybo, poor mental health can drive a person to do some pretty bizarre stuff.

My understanding was he's illegal, I think they approached it from the point he was hiding in there and didn't want to come out. Maybe.

  1. I'm interested to hear from the firefighters on the forum about the conduct of those firefighters. It seems to me that they were very standoffish and lacked empathy. Instead of putting on a hazmat suit, getting in there, and cutting the feller out, they stood there for a long time and argued with him to get him to come out on his own. It's not like that plastic tank is an impenetrable fortress. In less than half the time they spent arguing, they could have cut the top of the tank completely off. Maybe the guy was so argumentative/out of his mind that getting him to sit still while doing that much cutting was a risk? Not being there, and not being in that line of work, I wonder if what the firefighters did is considered normal/proper conduct?

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My understanding was he's illegal, I think they approached it from the point he was hiding in there and didn't want to come out. Maybe.
Interesting consideration. His english and accent seemed like a native to me, but maybe I'm misremembering (don't have time right now to re-watch it.)
 
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Interesting consideration. His english and accent seemed like a native to me, but maybe I'm misremembering (don't have time right now to re-watch it.)

Maybe not, on the other forum they said "some reports say he was running from ICE" it's likely either that or he's a weirdo perv. It wouldn't be the first time someone has hid in one to see people do their business and it won't be the last.
 
Swim in chemicals and human feces or get deported...rough decision.

I guess that depends on where they're going to send you. I think I'd take my chances with Mexico before poo soup. At least with Mexico I could get some good food and make my way back. There's no real coming back from a poo soup swim.
 
I guess that depends on where they're going to send you. I think I'd take my chances with Mexico before poo soup. At least with Mexico I could get some good food and make my way back. There's no real coming back from a poo soup swim.

Fair enough, but if he's "just" a perv, do you think a couple of beaver or ball shots are worth that swim? :sick:

That said, considering what some will do to get here may well give you some gauge as to the absolute shithole they came from. In this case, he went from shithole to shithole and will likely still be deported (assuming he is an illegal).
 
That said, considering what some will do to get here may well give you some gauge as to the absolute shithole they came from. In this case, he went from shithole to shithole and will likely still be deported (assuming he is an illegal).

I've worked with more than a few south-of-the boarder guys. I've been told some stuff. I remember one guy from El Salvador who described a very ruff place.
 
America's fittest cities

https://www.oklahoman.com/story/lif...fforts-increase-park-access-maps/90914437007/

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According to findings in the ACSM report, the gap between the healthiest and least healthy cities is growing wider, revealing that the nation’s fittest cities consistently combine lower obesity and chronic disease rates with higher physical activity, stronger active transportation and broad access to parks and recreation infrastructure.

On the other hand, low-ranked cities like Oklahoma City continue to struggle with higher obesity, lower activity levels, food insecurity and fewer opportunities to integrate movement into daily life, ACSM said.
 
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I'm interested to hear from the firefighters on the forum about the conduct of those firefighters. It seems to me that they were very standoffish and lacked empathy. Instead of putting on a hazmat suit, getting in there, and cutting the feller out, they stood there for a long time and argued with him to get him to come out on his own. Not being there, and not being in that line of work, I wonder if what the firefighters did is considered normal/proper conduct?

What they did was absolutely appropriate. Empathy is one thing, but if the person intentionally placed themselves in that position, they are risking our safety for there own idiotic actions. Trying to talk him out of there first is the right thing to do. Sometimes you need to be firm with people to get them to take any action. If he got in there, he most likely can get out. If not, cut him out like they did. Destroying property is never the first option. Somebody has to pay for the porta potty, and most likely, the company will eat that cost.

I'm a very empathetic person, but after 27 years of dealing with various levels of idiots, patience can run thin. Yes, we know it's our job, but we are still human too.
 
On the other hand, low-ranked cities like Oklahoma City continue to struggle with higher obesity, lower activity levels, food insecurity and fewer opportunities to integrate movement into daily life, ACSM said.

Maybe I'm not sure what food insecurity means. We have more than enough. But yes to the rest of it, and is anybody shocked that the worst ten for fitness are almost all places where it sucks to be outside for most of the year? I would put OKC up against any place in the US for the worst combination of summer/winter extremes.

I'm honestly shocked that no cities in Missouri showed up on that list. It's something I notice every time I go to Joplin, Springfield, Branson, etc.