No spare tire?

Good to know! I have AAA so maybe it’s time to go without the spare on my DD TJ.

If you’re just using it as a daily, you’ll notice a huge difference, especially if it’s a larger spare.
 
mine looks like it has no spare from the outside but it's strapped to the floor inside

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It's becoming really common to have NO spare tire at all in smaller cars. My 2017 Golf R came without a spare OR jack - not even a dealer option. No run flats - those are usually crap for handling anyways. It comes with a fancy can of fix-a-flat and air compressor. The Euro models came with a spare so I was able to piece together a the foam tool holders, a spare from an audi, a jack and a couple of trim pieces for about $200. All OEM parts, just not from a US model. And the factory subwoofer was designed to fit into the spare which didn't even exist...

Yeah the no spare thing is so idiotic. My BMW had no spare when I got it, only run flats. Well the run flats will work for about 1 mile until the tire shreds apart even at low speeds. Most of the guys on the forums recommend running with a tire plug kit and a compressor. Neither of those will fix a giant gash in the sidewall, which is what has happened the 2 times I got a flat, usually from road debris. I now run regular tires and carry a temporary spare, a tire plug kit, and a small compressor in the trunk.
 
Yeah the no spare thing is so idiotic. My BMW had no spare when I got it, only run flats. Well the run flats will work for about 1 mile until the tire shreds apart even at low speeds. Most of the guys on the forums recommend running with a tire plug kit and a compressor. Neither of those will fix a giant gash in the sidewall, which is what has happened the 2 times I got a flat, usually from road debris. I now run regular tires and carry a temporary spare, a tire plug kit, and a small compressor in the trunk.

My mom had a newer BMW and HATED the run flats. She frequently complained about them before getting rid of the car.
 
If I was more than mildly inconvenienced by a flat tire I'd be pissed. Swap it out in 10 minutes versus calling for help and waiting an hour+ for some guy in a van to come to loosen and then tighten 5 lug nuts? I know what I'm choosing.
Not only that, but if "the guy" shows up in an hour, you're doing good. Last time I called A3 for a tow, it was almost 3 hours...
 
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Not only that, but if "the guy" shows up in an hour, you're doing good. Last time I called A3 for a tow, it was almost 3 hours...

Not having a spare is one of the most absurd things I've heard in a while. I know the new Grand Cherokees, Range Rovers, and my 2019 Hyundai rental car have a spare. At least companies are keeping the spare if there is space in the car. Once they get rid of the spare on a truck I'll be really amazed.
 
In over a couple of decades of wheeling I’ve only ever needed to change a tire twice and that was two sidewall punctures 20 mins apart one night.

On road, Jeep or any other vehicle I have never needed to change a tire unless the tire was well past it’s intended life span. The quality of tires have improved drastically over the last few decades so I really don’t see what the big deal of running spareless is.
It’s not like the old days where flats on good tires were common place.
 
On road, Jeep or any other vehicle I have never needed to change a tire unless the tire was well past it’s intended life span.
I said the same thing when the Nitto Ridge Grapplers on my truck had a flat. They had 20k on them. The TPMS that reads the actual pressure saved me. I could see the pressure dropping rapidly so I could get off the interstate. Also had a flat on that set of tires at around 50k.
 
I'm a fan of no spare... within reason.

Running a 37 on the back of an LJ just felt like so much extra leverage when rock crawling. I decided to try a local obstacle without my spare and a simple rear bumper and it is night and day. Plus my jeep handles high speed stuff much better, which I'm a fan of.

But I have some rules. I always take my spare with me if I go out of town (moab, sand hollow, ect...) I leave the spare in town just in case I need it for some reason. I also always carry a viair pump and I have about 100 plugs in my jeep lol. Moab and Sand hollow are unique in the fact that the trails are for the most part not sharp tire cutting and you are close to town.

If I was in another state where the rocks are sharp, the mud is deep with hidden things, or other reasons that lead to flats, I'd carry a spare all the time. But in my area and with my trails, the benifits are great towards my jeeps capability.

For your viewing pleasure I have two videos. These are the same obstacle. One with a spare, one without. The jeep is the same for the most part in both videos, besides some paint and the soft top off. (same tires, lockers, axles, suspension ect.)

I know the first one has some mud, but I've climbed this obstacle 100 times and its about the same with mud or not. Its slick.



 
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It's becoming really common to have NO spare tire at all in smaller cars. My 2017 Golf R came without a spare OR jack - not even a dealer option. No run flats - those are usually crap for handling anyways. It comes with a fancy can of fix-a-flat and air compressor. The Euro models came with a spare so I was able to piece together a the foam tool holders, a spare from an audi, a jack and a couple of trim pieces for about $200. All OEM parts, just not from a US model. And the factory subwoofer was designed to fit into the spare which didn't even exist...
My Corvette didn't come with a spare.
 
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What's your opinion on this @mrblaine? Do you guys use spares mounted in the usual tailgate position where you wheel in JV?

I've been wheeling mine without a spare for years, and I agree with everything @AgentLJ said.
 
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