Off-Road Only AiRock & How it Works

Rick Flair · Mar 29, 2020

Wildman said:
I started out on Allied beadlocks when I first built this Jeep but I kept burping my inner bead on some of the trails in the Rimrock area. A few other club members were also burping on some of the trails so it wasn't just me. At the time one member had a shop so they did a group buy of Staun inner beadlocks. I'd come across a great deal on the H1 rims and because I was familiar with them I went that route instead.

I'll run these tires until they are worn and then I'll switch to a 17" wheel. Not sure if I'm going to go inner beadlocks then or what I'll do.

We’re you guys running wider than say, a 8” wheel on 12.50 wide tires? I’d seen a few that would burp with a 10” wide wheel, the tires were just not clamped hard enough it did create issues.
I’ve always run 8” wide wheels on all my rigs, even the 13.50 Toyo’s. They pinch well.

Never ran into anyone using the stauns’s they hit the market around the same time as the staz...IIRC!

It’s wise to move to a 17”, like you, my Jeep is a snapshot to about 15 years back of tech but I like it that way. For now.

Wildman · Mar 29, 2020

Apparition said:
Here’s a double beadlock for you

That was WAY easier than trying to get the insert into a tire for the dual beadlocks like I have.

Now getting that DANG NAB insert BACK OUT of the tire is even more of a fun time. But I'm learning tricks as I go.
Of course the insert that worked with the H1 rims doesn't work with the Staz rims so I have had to change them.

They were good lookin rims...…

Rubi04 said:
We’re you guys running wider than say, a 8” wheel on 12.50 wide tires? I’d seen a few that would burp with a 10” wide wheel, the tires were just not clamped hard enough it did create issues.
I’ve always run 8” wide wheels on all my rigs, even the 13.50 Toyo’s. They pinch well.

Never ran into anyone using the stauns’s they hit the market around the same time as the staz...IIRC!

It’s wise to move to a 17”, like you, my Jeep is a snapshot to about 15 years back of tech but I like it that way. For now.

8" rims were what I was running but I'm not sure about my club members. And I was running 35x13.5 Toyo M/T's at the time.

Mounting those Toyo's on the Allied rims.

Rick Flair · Mar 29, 2020

Wildman said:
That was WAY easier than trying to get the insert into a tire for the dual beadlocks like I have.

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Now getting that DANG NAB insert BACK OUT of the tire is even more of a fun time. But I'm learning tricks as I go.
Of course the insert that worked with the H1 rims doesn't work with the Staz rims so I have had to change them.

They were good lookin rims...…

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8" rims were what I was running but I'm not sure about my club members. And I was running 35x13.5 Toyo M/T's at the time.

Mounting those Toyo's on the Allied rims.

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Nice looking wheels for sure! Those inserts suck, lots of liquid soap!

hmm, never ran red rock. TSF, crushers, goldendale, etc.

Red rock is foreign to me, but maybe you ran lower than I did! 5-6 psi for rocks, I generally pulled the core for snow. 1-3 psi.

I’d like to wheel with you man. Maybe you will show me a few things for sure, sounds like our crews were different!

Wildman · Mar 29, 2020

Rubi04 said:
Nice looking wheels for sure! Those inserts suck, lots of liquid soap!

hmm, never ran red rock. TSF, crushers, goldendale, etc.

Red rock is foreign to me, but maybe you ran lower than I did! 5-6 psi for rocks, I generally pulled the core for snow. 1-3 psi.

I’d like to wheel with you man. Maybe you will show me a few things for sure, sounds like our crews were different!

2 PSI trying out my new tires and rims....

Hopefully I'll have the Jeep running and back on the road/trail this year. Once it's running again we'll have to get together for a run & camping trip.

Rick Flair · Mar 29, 2020

Wildman said:
2 PSI trying out my new tires and rims....

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Hopefully I'll have the Jeep running and back on the road/trail this year. Once it's running again we'll have to get together for a run & camping trip.

for sure man!!

Yeah that is laying over more than I would like. Bias ply?

Wildman · Mar 29, 2020

Rubi04 said:
for sure man!!

Yeah that is laying over more than I would like. Bias ply?

Yes, https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/super-swamper-38x12-50-16-5lt-tire-tsl-sx-sam-93/_/R-BKBW-SAM-93

Price is still not bad for them...

Rick Flair · Mar 29, 2020

Wildman said:
Yes, https://www.4wheelparts.com/p/super-swamper-38x12-50-16-5lt-tire-tsl-sx-sam-93/_/R-BKBW-SAM-93

Price is still not bad for them...

Your link didn’t work for me but that makes sense. I had some red label creepy crawlers on my FJ40 and they were SOOOO soft.

that was the only set of non radial tires I ran.

so maybe you do need a double BL....still want to wheel with you brother!

Wildman · Mar 29, 2020

Well after doing a little looking around these just might be my next set of tires.....

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YH1HDM/?tag=wranglerorg-20

Rick Flair · Mar 29, 2020

Wildman said:
Well after doing a little looking around these just might be my next set of tires.....

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006YH1HDM/?tag=wranglerorg-20

I liked the Iroks I had, but tread depth was a concern. Again, 20 years ago.

steelhd · Apr 7, 2020

Wildman said:
Yes Trail Jamboree 2010. The last year the Jeep was running.

Now that it's running and getting a face lift are you signed up for this year? Doubt we will have it though.

Wildman · Apr 7, 2020

steelhd said:
Now that it's running and getting a face lift are you signed up for this year? Doubt we will have it though.

It's not running yet. Block is at the machine shop and parts are starting to roll in for the face lift. But yes I doubt the Jamboree will even happen but at this point they are still saying it will.

DETOUR · Feb 9, 2021

Wildman said:
I was asked how this system works so I thought instead of clogging up another persons thread I'd start one so interested people could ask questions.

Off-Road Only They offer a lot of different kits for many platforms of Jeep but this is a TJ forum so for the TJ they offer a 4" & 6" kit. You can use it on a short arm or long arm suspension. The also offer a Dual Rate swaybar setup that you can use a air cylinder to lock and unlock it.

They system is a self leveling kit that is controled by a computer and a dash controller. Under 25 MPH you can be in manual mode and adjust your ride height or tilt the Jeep side to side, front to back & corner to corner. When you go above 35 MPH it goes into highway mode and lowers the suspension down to a preset height and then self adjusts no matter how much weight you have in the Jeep or if you are towing a trailer. It also self levels as you go around corners.

Here are pictures of the computer and air manifold View attachment 138750 View attachment 138751 View attachment 138752

Here is what it looks like hooked up.

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Then this is the controller for the dash

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The system uses height sensors to determine how much air to put into each air bag. The sensors are connected to the lower arms of your suspension.

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Here is the SwayLoc Dual Rate front swaybar. You can lock and unlock it with the dash controller.

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This video isn't of my TJ but it shows what the AirRock can do.

Here is my TJ going thru the Demo Mode also.

So fire off your questions and I will try to answer any of them that I can. It isn't a cheap system and I don't think it is what EVERYONE wants but I am a lower right leg amputee and so being able to lower my TJ down to it's bump stops for getting into and out of it sure helps. When I bought the system I hadn't had my leg amputated yet but I had been shot in the leg while deployed to Iraq so I had mobility issues with my right leg. Even on 38" tires it makes it easier with it lowered down.

Wowee
Thx for sharing !!!

Adrian connor · Dec 16, 2024

Hi mate can we get some pics of how the setup is installed?
Ie: the pump, controls, ride height sensors etc...

Also dare we ask how much it cost to purchase

Wildman · Dec 16, 2024

Adrian connor said:
Hi mate can we get some pics of how the setup is installed?
Ie: the pump, controls, ride height sensors etc...

Also dare we ask how much it cost to purchase

Here's ORO's website. You can see what the current prices are.

https://offroadonly.com/

The pump is a York compressor but mine is different than most since I have a V-8 (Hemi) in my TJ.

Here's a video of it in demo mode.

Adrian connor · Dec 16, 2024

I've looked on the website and couldn't find complete setups and prices

Adrian connor · Dec 16, 2024

I see the swaybars and compressors and other bits

Wildman · Dec 16, 2024

Adrian connor said:
I see the swaybars and compressors and other bits

You're correct they don't have the AiRock system on their website anymore. I don't know why so I'd suggest contacting Steve and ask. I know when I bought my kit back in 2005 it was around $5K so I don't know what current prices would be.

Here's the description of the AiRock: https://offroadonly.com/airock/

I'll find some more pictures for you in a few.

Adrian connor · Dec 16, 2024

Cheers I've sent them an email

Wildman · Dec 16, 2024

This was the complete kit.

This is the brains of the system and the air distribution system.

This is the controller that goes on your dash.

And the air springs.

Wildman · Dec 16, 2024

The height sensors mount in different ways depending on which suspension you're running. I drilled & tapped these holes in the frame & then mounted the height sensors.

I made new mounts for the air springs and tried to get MAX travel out of the air springs. ORO sells a 10" travel shock with the 6" kit but I'm using 12" shocks front & rear.