A couple of decades ago, I enjoyed the stand-up comedy specials on HBO or similar. About the time that Howie Mandel, Tim Allen, and Drew Carey were getting known. Watching them seemed to generally entail a sprinkling of newcomers just getting started. One of them was Ellen. I wasn't impressed but later heard that she got a show of her own. Still not impressed.Damn it. I also heard that she got into hot water for being friends or friendly with George W. Bush .
Actually I know of her, not because I've ever watched her talk show, but because somehow I know the sitcom Ellen. I assume my sister watched it when I was growing up, but I don't remember anything other than the sitcom Ellen.
...There now you can see some of my shame....I think I'm gonna go drive a tractor for a bit to feel better...