"Pacing myself" build

We've had her a week as of today. I've been fortunate to be able to take her to work with me, as she's too tiny to leave her with my other doggo.

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So far, she is doing well with the crate training. Potty training has proven challenging.
 
Jeep is getting close to needing new tires, probably this summer. I'm considering a change to a 17" tire. 15's are getting harder to find and fewer choices. Other than the added cost, are there any negatives to a 17? Obviously, I'll need new wheels. It would be nice to get a wheel with a 4ish" BS to tuck them in a little closer to keep the mud slinging to a minimum.

Maybe these?
https://www.tiresandwheels.com/product.php?cat_id=124&scat_id=9004&item_id=231150

or,
https://www.extremeterrain.com/mammoth-jeep-wrangler-tj-boulder-charcoal-wheel-17x9-j176623.html

For tires, a "C" rated LT285/70R17?
https://automotive.kendatire.com/en-us/find-a-tire/onoff-road-off-road/klever-rt/
Don't know much about the Kendas, but they are priced decently.

or,
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tire...R7WPAT4W&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

or,
https://www.toyotires.com/product/open-country-rt-trail/


Thoughts?
 
Depending on your personal taste/opinion, one downside of the 17's is the loss of sidewall. I prefer the 50% rule (rim no more than 50% of the tire diameter).

Agreed. I don't wheel like I used to, so I'm finding my tastes changing to an 80/20 ratio of wheeling. I'm on pavement more these days. My current wheels are 15+ years old and show it. If I stick with a 15, my fear is a lack of tire choices as time goes on.
 
Depending on your personal taste/opinion, one downside of the 17's is the loss of sidewall. I prefer the 50% rule (rim no more than 50% of the tire diameter).

It depends on how and where you wheel, but I noticed the 17" added a lot of stability off camber than the 15" with no discernable traction difference. I can imagine this translates positively to the on-road experience.
 
It depends on how and where you wheel, but I noticed the 17" added a lot of stability off camber than the 15" with no discernable traction difference. I can imagine this translates positively to the on-road experience.

Oh it will for sure depend on where you spend your time. But with less sidewall, there is less sidewall to air down for bump absorption and tire flex. The tradeoff is stability, but if wheel damage is a risk, less sidewall increases that. 33's on 17's isn't a terrible ratio, but less than ideal where those traits are needed/beneficial. I run 35's on 20's on my pickup which sees decent hunting and softroading and its never been an issue. That's roughly the same (maybe a smidge less depending on actual tire height). But I also, never air it down for those trips and don't go on anything beyond rocky and/or muddy hunting and logging roads.

All of that to say, yes, it depends on where you are and how you use it.
 
I rarely air down below 12 psi. My Rubicon trail days are behind me, but I've been known to run trails I have no place to be.
 
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Jeep is getting close to needing new tires, probably this summer. I'm considering a change to a 17" tire. 15's are getting harder to find and fewer choices. Other than the added cost, are there any negatives to a 17? Obviously, I'll need new wheels. It would be nice to get a wheel with a 4ish" BS to tuck them in a little closer to keep the mud slinging to a minimum.

Maybe these?
https://www.tiresandwheels.com/product.php?cat_id=124&scat_id=9004&item_id=231150

or,
https://www.extremeterrain.com/mammoth-jeep-wrangler-tj-boulder-charcoal-wheel-17x9-j176623.html

For tires, a "C" rated LT285/70R17?
https://automotive.kendatire.com/en-us/find-a-tire/onoff-road-off-road/klever-rt/
Don't know much about the Kendas, but they are priced decently.

or,
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Falken&tireModel=WildPeak+A/T4W&partnum=87R7WPAT4W&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

or,
https://www.toyotires.com/product/open-country-rt-trail/


Thoughts?

All good choices, but I really like those Outlaw II Bronze. Would really make your rig standout. Reminds me of an Eagle, but on steroids. Subtle but strong.

I’m a fan of Falken Wildpeaks, but I really like that Open Country R/T.

As far as 17’s, I was in analysis paralysis over the 15 vs 17 issue for so long. I even bought a cheap set of 15’s just to tide me over and see what I thought. I knew immediately I’d made the wrong decision. 17’s is my future.

On BS, I went with a 4.5” and used a 0.25” spacer. It drives really well. Great scrub radius, but even with washers on the steering stops I get more rubbing than I want. I’m going to 3.75”, but that’s what the wheel came with, I’d still be interested in 4”.

I look forward to seeing where you end up!
 
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Oh it will for sure depend on where you spend your time. But with less sidewall, there is less sidewall to air down for bump absorption and tire flex. The tradeoff is stability, but if wheel damage is a risk, less sidewall increases that. 33's on 17's isn't a terrible ratio, but less than ideal where those traits are needed/beneficial. I run 35's on 20's on my pickup which sees decent hunting and softroading and its never been an issue. That's roughly the same (maybe a smidge less depending on actual tire height). But I also, never air it down for those trips and don't go on anything beyond rocky and/or muddy hunting and logging roads.

All of that to say, yes, it depends on where you are and how you use it.

Oh right, my thinking is biased toward a 35s build. Reframing under 33s though, I do think if we are talking rim damage either way - I'm probably hitting things a bit harder than I should.

I'm not advocating for either, specifically, only joined in for the conversation. However, once my MTRs are dead on my 15" wheels I do intend to bump to 17" wheels (and no specific tire yet) for 35s
 
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I have 285/70r17 Baja boss tires on 17” wheels fitted to my pickup. That is a good looking tire and it looks good on the wheel too. Something about the sidewall make it look a little bigger than it really is.

It’s also a very good tire, so far. Not the quietest tires I’ve run, but they aren’t bad and they have pretty great traction in everything I’ve taken them in.
 
I have 285/70r17 Baja boss tires on 17” wheels fitted to my pickup. That is a good looking tire and it looks good on the wheel too. Something about the sidewall make it look a little bigger than it really is.

It’s also a very good tire, so far. Not the quietest tires I’ve run, but they aren’t bad and they have pretty great traction in everything I’ve taken them in.

Didn't consider the Baja Boss, but that's a good looking tire, and available in a STD load rating.

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/mtt-53738#overview

I'm over a quiet tire, after running a set of KM's, STT's, and KM2's, then my current KO2's. The KO2's are definitely quiet compared, but I'm ready for a tire with a bit mor bite, but still has some decent road manners.
 
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It depends on how and where you wheel, but I noticed the 17" added a lot of stability off camber than the 15" with no discernable traction difference. I can imagine this translates positively to the on-road experience.

IMO, it's absolutely felt on-road, particularly if you corner hard enough and are at lower psi.
 
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