WOW nice score on the axle. Getting a Dana 44 out here for under $1K is rare. And you scored the gears and stuff too. I think the brakes from the GC will swap over but can't say 100%.
Scrat 2.5 to Scrat Limited 5.9
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WOW nice score on the axle. Getting a Dana 44 out here for under $1K is rare. And you scored the gears and stuff too. I think the brakes from the GC will swap over but can't say 100%.
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I about got all my parts and tools gathered up to start the Dana 44 rebuild. I do not have the original carrier to this axle. I do have a TRAC LOK carrier and a new G2 ring and pinion set for it. When I look at the FSM for the dana 44 the diagram shows the carrier shims between the carrier and the bearings. I watched a few youtube videos and they show the shims going outside the carrier and bearings; between the axle housing and bearing/carrier.
the dana 44 is a stripped down axle it has the end caps and axle shafts but I need to replace everything else. Any information will be appreciated
the dana 44 is a stripped down axle it has the end caps and axle shafts but I need to replace everything else. Any information will be appreciated
All the d44s I've played with had carrier shims on the outside. It would be a royal pain to set backlash otherwise?
I think I'd rather have an open diff than a LS. Short wheelbase rigs whipping sideways on slick surfaces is no fun. Open diff at least leaves a tire somewhat planted.
I've never worked on a Dana 44a so can't offer any help there. I'd post up your questions in the general area and see if some of the axle guys will respond.
On a standard Dana 44 most of the time the shims are between the bearings and the carrier. Some of the newer Jeep Dana 44's I think had the shims on the outside of the bearings. This is where a GOOD clam shell puller comes in handy. And setup bearings.
Not sure how a limited slip would cause this. The TracLoc was a option from the factory and many TJ's had one in the rear.
I ran a Detroit locker in the rear of my TJ for 4 years before I upgraded axles and while it would bang & pop now and then I never had any scary issues with it. And I even drove it in the winter in snow & ice.
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So with the help of BFG and BlackJack I got the Dana 44 in and set right. One worry taken care of. Today I was installing an Aussie locker in my Dana 30 and at reassembly I looked over my races and they were pitted pretty good. Now have spicer 706016X on order. but that should wrap up the drive train mods for now.
I have been adjusting the pinion angle little by little. I think I about have them set as I only feel a little vib about 80 MPH now.
Engine is running great with no issues its hard to keep my foot out of it. I did the power brake thing the other night leaving work. Childish I know but fun LOL. Much better with the Dana 44
The trans pan that I ordered was warped pretty bad. it is cast aluminum but it was pretty far off. I was surprised because the flange is 3/8 in think. I could not seal it up. I took it off and put a light in it and then held it up to a flat surface and to much of my surprise it was over 1/32 out in a few spots. took it to a guy who has a wide belt sander to flatten it out. Installing a gasket with blue RTV tomorrow to hopefully seal it up for good.
I have been adjusting the pinion angle little by little. I think I about have them set as I only feel a little vib about 80 MPH now.
Engine is running great with no issues its hard to keep my foot out of it. I did the power brake thing the other night leaving work. Childish I know but fun LOL. Much better with the Dana 44
The trans pan that I ordered was warped pretty bad. it is cast aluminum but it was pretty far off. I was surprised because the flange is 3/8 in think. I could not seal it up. I took it off and put a light in it and then held it up to a flat surface and to much of my surprise it was over 1/32 out in a few spots. took it to a guy who has a wide belt sander to flatten it out. Installing a gasket with blue RTV tomorrow to hopefully seal it up for good.
Great to hear you got it done. Now we all want to see those power braking videos..
It really is hard to keep your foot out of it.
It really is hard to keep your foot out of it.
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Well finally got it out flexing and testing. I am very happy with it. I have a real quiet exhaust on it so it is a true sleeper. I did a a bunch of mild twisted trails, nothing rock crawling, but it did put the suspension through its full travel. Yes the rear LSD was a weak point as I got one tire up in the air and had to get a little tug off the obstacle, so that will have to be addressed. I didnt want to do it but I did do about a 75 foot mud pit, the first time I went through it was easy.
Then a well built gladiator (not the one in the group pick) with 40s on it went through it about 4 times with the last two runs being in 2 wheel drive. It turned it up good. So I figured well it is already dirty so I will try it again. I made it about 3/4 through before needing a tug. I was dragging the rear diff the entire way. I might move up the 35s after the first of the year.
Most of the bigger jeeps are newer and running 35s or larger tires. There was a guy taking some video and pics so hopefully I get some of those.
Thank you all for all the help and input
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Then a well built gladiator (not the one in the group pick) with 40s on it went through it about 4 times with the last two runs being in 2 wheel drive. It turned it up good. So I figured well it is already dirty so I will try it again. I made it about 3/4 through before needing a tug. I was dragging the rear diff the entire way. I might move up the 35s after the first of the year.
Most of the bigger jeeps are newer and running 35s or larger tires. There was a guy taking some video and pics so hopefully I get some of those.
Thank you all for all the help and input
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yeah once I drove it up to the start of the small and short but fairly steep sand hill climbs they have there. I punched it and flew up the hill while all the others had to get a running start. Then the first pass through the mud pit I was in and out within 20 seconds the guy videoing said. 
yeah once I drove it up to the start of the small and short but fairly steep sand hill climbs they have there. I punched it and flew up the hill while all the others had to get a running start. Then the first pass through the mud pit I was in and out within 20 seconds the guy videoing said.
I used to always enjoy the looks on peoples faces when I zipped up something. Wish I could figure out a quiet muffler that would fit under mine with the midarm.
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Ok finally got a video for ya'll but now I am not sure how to upload it. I have it on my android phone. What do I need to do to it so I can post it here?
You'd need to ask Chris on how to load a video here if it's small enough.
I load mine onto YouTube as it's easier for people with slow internet like me to be able to watch them.
I load mine onto YouTube as it's easier for people with slow internet like me to be able to watch them.
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Its not tire roasting but its still getting it. I have to keep my foot on brakes and I have disk brakes in the rear so there is that bit of resistance lol
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gong to move up the 35 inch tires. I already have a 1" body lift.
According to the paperwork I have from the original owner, the Jeep has a 4" Black Mountain (Collins Brothers) lift. I don't know much about the company but they have been in business for quite a while. The website no longer has anything listed for the Jeep TJ. I am not sure of the quality of my current springs which were installed in 2012 but I bet there have been improvements in general.
When I did the motor swap the extra weight of the 5.9 naturally compressed the springs. On FB I see some Rubicon Express 4.5" Springs for cheap. The guy is selling those and going to a progressive spring. My plan is to get the 35s and then cycle the suspension and see what rubs and see what I need to do then.
I am hoping to have this done Just after the new year so I can go join the South East boys on a weekend trail ride. Jerry said he will try to show up also.
Anyway, any advise on springs? I have after market fixed lower control arms and RC (I know) adjustable upper control arms, with RC adjustable track bars.
According to the paperwork I have from the original owner, the Jeep has a 4" Black Mountain (Collins Brothers) lift. I don't know much about the company but they have been in business for quite a while. The website no longer has anything listed for the Jeep TJ. I am not sure of the quality of my current springs which were installed in 2012 but I bet there have been improvements in general.
When I did the motor swap the extra weight of the 5.9 naturally compressed the springs. On FB I see some Rubicon Express 4.5" Springs for cheap. The guy is selling those and going to a progressive spring. My plan is to get the 35s and then cycle the suspension and see what rubs and see what I need to do then.
I am hoping to have this done Just after the new year so I can go join the South East boys on a weekend trail ride. Jerry said he will try to show up also.
Anyway, any advise on springs? I have after market fixed lower control arms and RC (I know) adjustable upper control arms, with RC adjustable track bars.
I had ProComp 4" springs on mine when I did the V-8 swap but right after the swap I installed the AiRock kit so I can't help you on height with the V-8. RE springs are supposed to run taller than advertised so if I remember correctly the 4.5" springs used to net around 5.5" lift with a stock engine. I'd go back and read the thread on Jeep Forum as I remember there being a lot of talk about springs and actual lift.