Torque increase chart when using anti-seize?

mrblaine said:
If you direct the application to ONLY the threads, you wouldn't see much change. Our lug nuts are tapered. The reason they are tapered is to increase the surface area between the lug nut and the wheel to prevent loosening. .

If you keep the AS off of the countersunk area, there shouldn't be much difference in torque being delivered and how well the nut stays tight. Some, but not much since the countersink friction is what determines most of it.
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What I was taught, funny enough, first by my High School shop teacher, 1987 or 88, can’t recall. Not sure that descriptive, but same message.

I hear him saying less is more, threads only.

Pretty amazing how much that teacher taught…more amazing that we paid attention. He was a good guy.
 
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mrblaine said:
And again, too many variables. If you rotate every 5000 miles, I know a lot of rigs that will rotate tires at greater than 1 year intervals which is ample time for rust to kill lug studs and lug nuts and that's where it all comes from.
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Agreed. I too get lazy about rotating the tires when I should. With 5 cars it's a PITA!🤣
 
cpwolf said:
What I was taught, funny enough, first by my High School shop teacher, 1987 or 88, can’t recall. Not sure that descriptive, but same message.

I hear him saying less is more, threads only.

Pretty amazing how much that teacher taught…more amazing that we paid attention. He was a good guy.
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I'm very bad about using too much anti-seize. I know better. Just need to decipline myself! 🙂
 
nitrofalcon said:
I'm very bad about using too much anti-seize. I know better. Just need to decipline myself! 🙂
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My favorites are folks who have a terrible habit of constantly touching their face. Not sure why they do it but when they install something with anti-seize, the habit becomes very obvious. I once witnessed an influencer install some Currie steering. For some reason he thought anti-seize was needed and he managed to wind up looking like the Tin Man. It was a challenge to hold the giggles in until he left, but we all managed, somehow.
 
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mrblaine said:
My favorites are folks who have a terrible habit of constantly touching their face. Not sure why they do it but when they install something with anti-seize, the habit becomes very obvious. I once witnessed an influencer install some Currie steering. For some reason he thought anti-seize was needed and he managed to wind up looking like the Tin Man. It was a challenge to hold the giggles in until he left, but we all managed, somehow.
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I saw a comedy movie on the streaming service where the guy was using some kind of grease and then scratched his nose. He ended up looking like Hitler! 🤣
 
mrblaine said:
My favorites are folks who have a terrible habit of constantly touching their face. Not sure why they do it but when they install something with anti-seize, the habit becomes very obvious. I once witnessed an influencer install some Currie steering. For some reason he thought anti-seize was needed and he managed to wind up looking like the Tin Man. It was a challenge to hold the giggles in until he left, but we all managed, somehow.
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Oz never did give nothin’ to that guy…
 
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cpwolf said:
So this is a topic I see often. I have a CJ5 and TJ and JK.

Almost every single owner that posts on the CJ Forums, puts some antiseize on their wheel stud threads for their lug nuts.

They even point to the Napa Anti Seize bottle stating it’s use to be on wheel studs.

I’ve read more than needed where they’ve gone through Engineering forums.

The only consensus is that only used on threads, not on the mating surface.

I’m not advocating for use or not use, but I use anti seize on my CJ. I don’t on my TJ, which I acknowledge makes no freaking sense, as the laws of physics apply to both Jeeps the same way.
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What's the issue with Anti Seize on mating surfaces? I used it between the tub and the (cast) tailgate hinges after seeing the galvanic corrosion when i took them off. I have also put it between the wheels and hub, etc.
 
matkal said:
What's the issue with Anti Seize on mating surfaces? I used it between the tub and the (cast) tailgate hinges after seeing the galvanic corrosion when i took them off. I have also put it between the wheels and hub, etc.
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Reread the post, and look at what is being said. Statement is to put on threads, not on mating surface in the context of the lug nuts.

Expanding a point being made about the mating surface of a lug nut to the tub mating to tailgate hinges, or the mating surface between the wheel and the hub, confuses and distorts the discussion.
 
cpwolf said:
Reread the post, and look at what is being said. Statement is to put on threads, not on mating surface in the context of the lug nuts.

Expanding a point being made about the mating surface of a lug nut to the tub mating to tailgate hinges, or the mating surface between the wheel and the hub, confuses and distorts the discussion.
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Gotcha. I thought he was referring to wheel studs/lug nuts in particular and mating surfaces in general. Makes sense.

Edit: I went semi off topic which was THREADED FASTENERS 🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️
 
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