Towing with a TJ

Then you have this package for the JT.

The Jeep Gladiator Max Tow Package (available on Sport and Sport S trims) boosts towing to a maximum of 7,700 lbs by adding 4.10 axle gears, wider Dana 44 axles, a Trac-Lok limited-slip differential, and heavy-duty cooling. It is designed for maximum towing capacity, featuring essential hardware like a Class IV hitch, 240-amp alternator, and specific suspension upgrades.

With the JT's departure angle, they could call that the rear bumper skid plate option.

The newer tow packages tend to be pretty good bang for your buck options.
 
That is very true, trucks with a high payload capacity ride like dog poo when empty so I can see the rear springs playing a huge role in this too.

I would just say trucks with a high payload ride like a truck.

Trucks uses to be built to tow stuff, haul stuff and be a truck.......... now they are more car ride like, thanks mostly to Urban Cowboy........ :cool:
 
The pinnacle of gm engineering. 4 cyl power and v8 fuel economy🤣

And here I thought Toyota got that first with the 3.5 V6 in the 3rd gen Tacomas. 😁

At least Toyota paired it with an automatic transmission that selected gears like my wife chooses restaurants.

Me: I'd like second gear please

Tacoma Transmission: I don't really feel like second gear right now. Not really sure what gear I want.
 
The pinnacle of gm engineering. 4 cyl power and v8 fuel economy🤣

Yeah , and yet was still more powerful than what Jeep could offer in 1984 . The one we had in a Wagoneer Limited was reliable and could get 20 m.p.g. in the mountains. However it was a total dog .

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And here I thought Toyota got that first with the 3.5 V6 in the 3rd gen Tacomas. 😁

At least Toyota paired it with an automatic transmission that selected gears like my wife chooses restaurants.

Me: I'd like second gear please

Tacoma Transmission: I don't really feel like second gear right now. Not really sure what gear I want.

So manually shift the thing - or is it one of those modern abominations that just has PRND and nothing else?
 
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So manually shift the thing - or is it one of those modern abominations that just has PRND and nothing else?

It has a button for ECT, kind of like a sport mode.

The 6 speed automatic in them is a known dog and shifts terribly.

I test drove one once and the salesman smoothly and discretely pressed the ECT button before he let me drive it.

When I got in the driver seat I immediately turned it back off.

You could see the salesman deflate.
 
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It has a button for ECT, kind of like a sport mode.

The 6 speed automatic in them is a known dog and shifts terribly.

I test drove one once and the salesman smoothly and discretely pressed the ECT button before he let me drive it.

When I got in the driver seat I immediately turned it back off.

You could see the salesman deflate.

If I can't shift it manually, I don't want it. My old MBZ has a 4 speed auto - with 3 positions on the shift lever. Drives me NUTS! I drove a new Ford about 10 years ago with an 8 speed or 10 speed or somesuch. You could shift it manually, or let the auto do its thing. 95% of the time, I just let the auto do its thing, but I want options. But 95% of the time, I partially downshift when slowing down.
 
And here I thought Toyota got that first with the 3.5 V6 in the 3rd gen Tacomas. 😁

At least Toyota paired it with an automatic transmission that selected gears like my wife chooses restaurants.

Me: I'd like second gear please

Tacoma Transmission: I don't really feel like second gear right now. Not really sure what gear I want.

That was fancy compared to the 3.slow in my old 91 4Runner. The only V6 that has less resale value than the four cylinder in the same vehicle.
 
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