Great info, That is why I went with a brand that is Local based in Utah.
https://code4ledsupply.com/
These were $200 a pair, so not $50-75 cheap amazon import which the youtube video mentions.
LED headlights lumens too high for on-road use?
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https://code4ledsupply.com/
These were $200 a pair, so not $50-75 cheap amazon import which the youtube video mentions.
I'm not against it, and they've been adjusted, but like I said, the spread is wider than typical pencil beam. Especially the fogs.
They might have been adjusted but you're still getting flashed by nearly all oncoming drivers so it's obvious they weren't aimed properly. You don't get that your headlights aren't aimed properly?
I drive at night in very dark areas with twisty country roads quite a bit and occasionally I'll get nearly blinded by an oncoming driver and if I flash my high beams at him he'll occasionally he'll flash his lights to High beam making me go nearly blind indicating his low beams were on to begin with. It pisses me off so bad when that happens I almost want to go back and run them off the road.
There's no excuse for blinding oncoming drivers with your low beams. It might just cause a fatal accident in some conditions. I'd reconsider getting them aimed properly.
Better hope that you don't live in an area with range rovers. Literally all my neighbors drive Range Rovers and HID are literally most blinding headlights on STOCK vehicles I have ever seen. Even brighter than my daily Explorer ST.
I do appreciate the idea of aiming my headlights lower and will adjust accordingly.
My guess is that those headlights were not completely made in Utah.... if at all.
They have a couple JW Speaker rip-offs I can see. A Truck-lite copy as well. I'm 99% sure those are not rebranded lights by those companies. My guess is that they are the imported copies.
They are using the exact same photo's you see on Amazon for the "new name this week" Chinese lights.
https://www.amazon.com/7-round-headlights/s?k=7"+round+headlights
The two they are copying are both USA products and significantly more expensive.
I could be wrong but I believe they are... may be foreign components however. They are an upper midwest company I believe.
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Founded in 1935 by John W. Speaker, J.W. Speaker Corporation is focused on developing innovative, high-performance vehicular lighting solutions for OEM and aftermarket customers around the world. We specialize in LED & other emerging lighting technologies and proudly design, manufacture & assemble our products in Germantown, Wisconsin.
LoL.
Maybe, maybe not. When the HID headlights came along people in brand new 100% stock cars were getting flashed because it looked different. Not because it was aimed improperly or too bright.
Same with LEDs.
Mine are properly aimed and I still get flashed now and then by idiots. The real irony is while these things do out out more total light it's spread across a much wider area. That's one of main advantages. And as such it's LESS likely to blind oncoming traffic. The light hitting any one spot is actually less than traditional headlights put out. People just see a wider beam pattern, and/or a different color temp and assume it's barbecuing their eyeballs. It's not.
I know the guys that started https://www.hereticstudio.com/pages/about they literally manufacture all their products.
In talking with them there are very few companies that are manufacturing all their components. I am just saying this because I know the guys at Code4LED they did all the lighting on my entire jeep. They were amazing to work with and are local based company that I can drive to their shop if I have issues. which is much different than Amazon china copies.
I agree with what you are saying about quality lighting, but TJ is not the vehicle people are going to spend $500 on headlights. $200 was the price vs performance that made sense for a Jeep TJ.
If you end up moving to FL you'll understand the benefit of bright headlights here. It deters "Florida Man" from somehow missing all signals that you are, in fact, a car. Plus helping you see the folks who love walking on the side of the road/or crossing it in dark clothing, poorly-lit areas with cyclists, and the countless drivers who don't have headlights on (yes. I see it every*single*time I drive at night here). They'll get aimed better, but as noted above, wider beam.
For me it was performance/quality. I think people pay for quality and performance for their TJ's well in excess of what it's worth..... This site is full of people who do that and freely admit it!
I spent around $600 and don't feel the least bit ripped off. Never been flashed at since I installed the new LED's either. As I said, I did a lot of looking into it. You made a choice and I did as well. As long as we feel like we did the best we can we can all still get along.
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I spent the money for Trucklite because I wanted to have a quality light that I know for certain meets FMVSS108 standards which many companies do not. It is also what my local truck parts store stocks so that was a factor as well.
I would be curious what the pattern on these look like on a wall? A lot of LED headlights do not have enough horizontal cutoff and as a consequence will be blinding to people regardless of adjustment especially if they are in the higher color temperature.
Or if the beam pattern is garbage and many expensive headlights have terrible poorly engineered beam patterns.
You keep blaming it on a wider beam. If the beam throws light into the eyes of oncoming drivers the correct word isn't "wider" it is "bad". Dangerous, rude, irresponsible, poorly designed, etc. also apply.
This site is helpful. based on their reviews and my driving experience, many aftermarket LED bulb/lens combos or complete units seem to have poor patterns (without a sharp cut off at the top of low beams). Who doesn’t like to have bright headlights? I do. But I really don’t want to blind oncoming drivers. Doesn’t seem good for me or them.
This made me giggle. I've worked with Marines from all over the country over the past 11 years. took me a while to narrow it down but i can now pick out the ones from Florida without asking. Y'all got something in the water down there that's for damn sure.
$200 a pair I would consider the price range for cheap knock off led headlights.
If I was a business and bought lights from China for $50-95 a pair I would probably sell them around $200. Why are the respectable names triple that price?