An aside: LJ buddy just bought a Wouxun 905G HT and asked that I program it for him. Had to do it by hand but got a couple repeaters in it for him. We talked HT-HT 25 miles between us and the repeater 35 miles from his place and not quite LOS, loud and clear all the way to his house. I think he was quite surprised; I was not. Mine is the 805G.